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Fri, 8 Jul 94 Volume 2 :
Issue 145
Today's Topics:
Gymn Poll #3?
Lysenko
Pam Titus
PLEASE READ - KAZAKHSTAN ANTHEM
Russian sports newspaper
Sokol Gymnastics Returns After 46 Years
Trivia Questions - #17 Original Moves
USOF '94: general AA notes
USOF '94: men's AA results
USOF '94: men's team and AA (complete)
Worlds qualifier results
Yurchenko 1/2 cum Hristikeiva
Yurchenko 1/2 front vault
This is a
digest of the gymn@athena.mit.edu mailing list.
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Date:
Thu, 7 Jul 1994 20:13:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***@owlnet.rice.edu>
Subject:
Gymn Poll #3?
I've gotten only 15 responses
so far to Gymn Poll #3. I'd like more.
If you have an
opinion on TV coverage or compulsories, email me and I
will
send you another copy of the poll.
Rachele
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Date:
Thu, 7 Jul 94 17:39:04 EDT
From: <***@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject:
Lysenko
I'm just adding my voice to those who believe Tatiana Lysenko
has retired. When
I was in Brisbane I heard from someone (who had
presumably talked to Tatiana)
that the only
reason she even competed there was because she had never been to
Australia
before and wanted to see it! Sadly, she did not have a good
performance there, so if she had had thoughts of retiring
before, Brisbane
probably sealed her decision.
She's one of my very favorite gymnasts, so I'll
really
miss her. But maybe she'll reappear. I thought Kalinina
had retired,
since she'd disappeared for so long,
But now she's back. So we can always hope.
Beth
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Date:
Thu, 07 Jul 94 18:43:06 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Pam Titus
Proof
of what a standout gymnast Pam Titus was: After Alabama won nationals
in 1991 in Tuscaloosa, Tide coach Sarah Patterson was on a
local radio show
called "Tide
Talk." Keep in mind that this show only
reaches as far as
Birmingham, so it can be assumed that most callers are
decidedly biased in
favor of UA. Also, most of the
callers seem only to be concerned with the
football
team and are not gymnastics-educated. AND, this was about two weeks
AFTER Nationals. Nevertheless, of the maybe six calls
Patterson took, three
were about FLORIDA'S Pam
Titus, the first to the effect of
"Why in the world
didn't
she win? " Patterson explained about how her routine
was not scored out of a
ten, and the next caller
said, "Well, she should of won anyway, 'cause she
was
the most impressive." THe discussion went on,
but I don't think
Patterson could have convinced anyone not familiar with
gymnastics that Pam
should not have won. WHat a great
gymnast.
Amanda
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Date:
Thu, 07 Jul 94 23:50:13 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: PLEASE READ -
KAZAKHSTAN ANTHEM
I know this is crazy, but I figured it's worth a
shot. We're having the
Puerto
Rico Cup tomorrow and Saturday, and the delegation from Kazakhstan
forgot their anthem at home. We're trying to find one here, but I
doubt
we'll be able to dig one up, and tomorrow
we're going to try Washington and
that sort of
thing, but if anyone out there happens to have it, I'd be plenty
happy to pay what it costs to copy it and FedEx it here
(well, at least if
it's coming from the
States. I think international may
be too much $). I
know it won't make it by tomorrow, but Saturday is event
finals, and we may
need it a lot more then. If you can do this, please call me at
(809)
789-5980 or tomorrow morning at (809) 759-8000 ext. 3670 or 3505
(we're on
Eastern Daylight Time here).
Thanks!
Adriana
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Date:
Thu, 7 Jul 94 17:52:27 EDT
From: <***@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject:
Russian sports newspaper
For any wealthy
Russian-reading people out there, I thought I'd pass on
the
info that you can get a subsription to "Sovetsky Sport" from a place called
Eastview
Publications in Minnesota. The e-mail address is
eastview@skypoint.com,
and the cost is a mere... $199. The paper is
theoretically
a daily, but no Russian paper publishes 7 days a week, so you
probably end up with 5 issues a week on average. My office subscribed
for
several years, and the paper has pretty
decent gymnastics coverage, with
interviews and
photos (b/w) of current and former stars. We stopped subscribing
this year, but I decided to splurge today and get a personal
subscription. Back
issues to January are
available, Eastview told me, so coverage of Brisbane
can
still be obtained (and Europeans and domestic
Russian meets, etc.) I'm sure the
paper will have
good coverage of Goodwill Games! It mainly deals with Russian
sports, but will sometimes mention Ukraine and Belarus. I
think it's pretty
funny that the paper still calls
itself "Soviet Sports" when the Soviet Union
hasn't
existed for 2 1/2 years! Either the editors haven't noticed or they're
suffering from a severe lack of creativity... When my papers
start
arriving, I'll post any interesting news on
the ex-Sovs.
Beth
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Date:
Thu, 07 Jul 94 19:22:20 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Sokol Gymnastics Returns After 46 Years
Excerpts
from a long article (actually 2 long articles) that Ifound
interesting...but then again I've been reading old
"IG"s for the last 6
months and the slets were always heavily covered.I
cut most of the cultural
and nationalism that the
Czech's think play into the Sokol comcept
as well.
CHICAGO TRIBUNE
DATE: Thursday, July 7, 1994
SECTION: NEWS
SOURCE: By Steve Mills, Tribune Staff Writer.
SOKOL'S TIES RUN DEEP IN CHICAGO AREA
Four generations of Rus Zitny's family have made the
gymnastics and
calisthenics, as well as the
culture, of the Czech Sokol movement a big part
of their lives.
Zitny's
grandfather helped start a chapter of the American Sokol
Organization,
the movement's Berwyn-based U.S. arm, in the 1940s, and his
father led the group in the 1980s. Zitny
and his brother grew up in the
organization, and Zitny has passed on his involvement to his two
children.
"It's
been a way of life for all of us," said Zitny, a
38-year-old
marketing and sales director for a
wireless data software company in
Westmont, on Wednesday.
So it was that his parents
traveled to Prague for the first mass
gathering,
or Slet, of the group in nearly a half-century. His
father, Roy
Zitny, of Westmont, has been busy the
last year teaching the drills-which are
set to
music and performed in colorful uniforms-to more than 200 Chicago-area
people who made the journey.
Nationwide, Sokol
membership is about 7,000.
"Many of our members are quite old, but they really wanted to
go," said
June Pros of Berwyn, the group's financial secretary.
"The freedom now means
so much. It's a very
emotional trip for some of them."
Sokol
members in the Chicago area participate in local Slets
every year.
Their involvement in the movement, though, runs deeper, with
the Sokol a knot
holding
the Czech community together.
CHICAGO TRIBUNE
DATE: Thursday, July
7, 1994
SOURCE: By David Rocks, Special to the Tribune.
DATELINE:
PRAGUE, Czech Republic
CZECH SOKOLS, ONCE BANNED BY COMMUNISTS,
HAIL THEIR REBIRTH
Majka Chroustova acknowledges
that by the time some people reach age 70,
they
might feel a little too old to march into the world's largest stadium
with thousands of others and do gymnastics.
"The only way I wouldn't have
come today is if I were dead," said
Chroustova,
one of some 22,000 participants this week in the first mass
meeting of the Sokol athletic club
in 46 years.
The Sokol club-a Czech nationalist athletic and gymnastic organization-was
banned by Czechoslovakia's Communists after they seized
power in 1948. Since
communism fell here nearly
five years ago, the Sokol ideal has again
flourished-often with the help of foreign Sokol groups formed by Czech
emigres and exiles.
Sokol
("falcon" in Czech) was formed in 1862 to raise the consciousness
of
Czechs as a nation at a time when their lands were still part of the
Hapsburg
Empire. Sokol's founders believed the
nation couldn't survive without a
physically,
mentally and morally fit population-and the way to achieve this
was through sports, especially gymnastics and
calisthenics.
By 1938,
the group's last mass meeting before World War II, Sokol
had
swelled to more than a million members in
Czechoslovakia and thousands more
abroad.
When Germany occupied the country,
the Nazis banned the movement because
of its ties
to Czech nationalism. Sokol was revived in 1945, only
to be
outlawed again in 1948 by the
Communists
While Sokol has long been a training ground for many top gymnasts
and
other athletes, the emphasis at the mass
meetings is on participation rather
than
competition.
Sokols ranging in age from pre-school to
retirement have taken to the
field to march in
rows and columns, form squares, circles, diamonds and
triangles,
and do mass calisthenics and gymnastics for thousands of
spectators.
The elderly were evident en masse
at this week's events, but many young
people seem
to prefer MTV to mass calisthenics, ripped jeans to the elaborate
Sokol costumes, and beer-drinking to group gymnastics.
"Sokol
has to find a new mission. We have to fulfill the needs of today's
youth," said Stanislav Doutlik, who heads the Czech Sokol
organization. "We
can't just dictate that we
have to do this sort or that sort of calisthenics.
We have to give them
things that interest them."
To that end, the group has added
new disciplines such as rock dancing,
karate and
judo to its traditional menu of gymnastics and calisthenics.
Posted by Susan
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Date:
Thu, 07 Jul 94 23:21:38 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Trivia Questions
- #17 Original Moves
First, I'd like to thank Sherwin, Marcus, Susan, and Karen for
the great
questions here!
1. Who was the first lady to perform in
competition the triple back dismount
from uneven
bars? In what meet did this
happen?
2. Who was the
first person to compete one arm giant swings? At what meet
did
this happen?
3. Who was
the first woman to perform a double front off UB?
4. In what meet did Natalia Yurchenko first compete her namesake vault?
5. Name the first person to compete a
double twisting Yurchenko? At what
meet?
6. What is the (Marcia) Frederick?
7. What move on UB is listed in the Code as
a 'Fabrichnova' ?
8. Who was the first person to connect
release moves? What moves?
9. What new move did Tatiana Groshkova introduce at the 1990 Europeans?
10. What two new women's BB moves were
introduced by members of medal
winning teams at
the 1991 World Championships?
I'll post answers in a day or two!
Mara
PS Btw, after
all the hemming and hawing, the kitty's name is the hardly
gymnastic Jonathan
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Date:
Fri, 8 Jul 1994 08:47:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***@owlnet.rice.edu>
Subject:
USOF '94: general AA notes
CBS will be televising the USOF at 4pm EST
on Saturday.
More men's stuff:
Bo Haun
didn't know he'd won the gold until his name was called at the
medal ceremony.
"It was pretty strange because I know that Bill Roth,
Steve
McCain and Mihai Bagiu are
better gymnasts than me. But I went
in trying to
hit six events, and I hit six."
Roth: "I can't swing when my
hands are like this [putting his hands
around his
neck]. I think I let it (the crowd) get to me. That's the
reason
right there."
Women's:
Larissa Fontaine has withdrawn
from the competition (I don't know
why.)
Listed
favorites are Doni Thompson, Summer Reid, and Kellee Davis.
Dominique Moceanu
withdrew; Andree Pickens of Cypress will now compete
(thanks
to Kaitie Dyson for that info).
Notes on Kellee Davis from an AP story on her (like the one on Mihai):
She turns 16 later this month.
A
typical Davis day: wake up at 6:15, be at school by 7:40, done at
2:40, at
the gym from 3:30 to 9:30, at home by 10 to eat, do homework,
sleep, and get up the next morning again.
"I
just keep pushing myself to keep on doing it... I think that I've
been in it so long, and I want to get a college
scholarship."
Davis became a gymnast through a YMCA program in
New York that combined
gymnastics with
swimming. She concentrated on
gymnastics at age 9, and then soon moved to a private gym for more intense
training.
Her mother, Dianna, just moved to Florida (Davis had been
living with
coaches Toni and Tim Rand). Her father, Wendell, will be leaving
his
job in NYC to join the family in FL.
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Date:
Thu, 7 Jul 1994 23:35:57 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***@owlnet.rice.edu>
Subject:
USOF '94: men's AA results
US Olympic Festival
St. Louis, MO
Men's
AA
1. Bo Haun (Univ
of Minnesota) 56.75 [9.65 on
HB]
2. Bill Roth (Temple) 56.70
3. Steve McCain (UCLA) 56.675
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8.
Mihai Bagiu (Gold Cup)
Notes from the AP story:
Haun:
"One of the things I wanted to try and do is be consistent. I
try to do the best I can, but I think I can do six (events)
in a row."
McCain had the lead going into the last rotation but
had a poor rings
(8.7).
Roth said he knew Haun
had hit high bar by the crowd's cheers in the
middle
of his PH routine, and that's when he fell off the horse. He
scored
an 8.8. Roth won 5 golds in the 1990 Festival, but sat out
1991 and 1992
with surgeries -- two on his "ruptured patellar tendon"
and ACL and a third surgery on a torn tendon in his left
shoulder.
Roth said: "I've come to realize that every meet I walk in
and out of
and come through ... is like icing on
the cake."
Bagiu fell on vault and
parallel bars to fall to ninth after leading
the
competition after the first three rounds.
He then got a 9.8 on
high bar (?!) to move
up to 8th.
Rachele
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Date:
Fri, 8 Jul 1994 08:30:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***@owlnet.rice.edu>
Subject:
USOF '94: men's team and AA (complete)
>From the ever trusty AP
wire:
US Olympic Festival, St. Louis, MO
Team
1,
South (Jeff Lutz, Fort Worth, Texas; Rob Kieffer,
Austin, Texas;
Jay Thornton, Austin, Texas; Dan Ryssman,
Reno, Nev.; Sanjuan Jones,
Tallahassee,
Fla.; Jamie Natalie, Hockessin, Del.), 276.225.
2, East (Bill
Roth, Mohegan Lake, N.Y.; Garry Denk, Iowa City,
Iowa;
Spencer Slaton, Atlanta; Tim Dalrymple,
Tracy, Calif.; Craig Nesbitt,
Springfield, Mo.; Lindsey
Fang, Allentown, Pa.), 274.925.
3, North (Steve McCain,
Houston; John MacReady, San Diego, Larry
Johns,
Tulsa, Okla.; Josh Birckelbaw, Elk Grove, Calif.;
Guard Young,
Oklahoma City; Scott Finkelstein, Allentown,
Pa.), 271.525.
4, West (Mihai Bagiu, Albuquerque; Bo Huan,
Springfield, Mo.; Mike
Dutka, Fairless Hills,
Pa.; Kendall Schiese, Sandy, Utah; Jason Furr,
Woodbridge, Va.; Carey Reddick,
Paragould, Ark.), 270.500.
All-Around
1, Bob Haun (West), Springfield, Mo., 56.750
2, Bill Roth
(East), Mohegan Lake, N.Y., 56.700
3, Steve McCain (North), Houston,
56.675
4, Jeff Lutz (South), Fort Worth, Texas, 56.375
5, Jay Thornton
(South), Augusta, Ga., 56.050
6, Garry Denk
(East), Iowa City, Iowa, 56.025
7, Rob Kieffer
(South), Austin, Texas, 55.850
8, Mihai Bigau (West), Albuquerque, 55.300
9, Larry Johns
(North), Tulsa, Okla., 55.050
10, Spencer Slaton (East), Atlanta,
54.450
11, Sanjuan Jones (South), Tallahassee,
Fla., 54.450
12, Mike Dutka (West), Fairless
Hills, Pa., 53.850
13, Lindsey Fang (East), Allentown, Pa., 53.800
14,
Josh Birckelbaw (North), Elk Grove, Calif.,
53.700
?. Dan Ryssman
(South), Reno, Nev., 52.550
17, Scott Finkelstein (North),llentown, Pa., 52.200
18, John MacReady (North), San Diego, 52.150
19, Kendall Schiesse (West), Snady, Utah,
51.900
20, Jamie Natalie (South), Hockessin, Del., 51.850
21, Gaurd Young (North), Oklahoma City, 51.550
22, Carey Reedick (West), Paragould, Ark., 51.100
23, Craig
Nesbitt (East), Springfield, Mo., 50.850
24, Jason Furr
(West), Woodbridge, Va., 49.600
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Date:
Thu, 07 Jul 94 23:51:10 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Worlds qualifier
results
Results from the Worlds qualifier:
1. Cuba 533.90
2. Canada 514.80
3. Puerto Rico 505.15
4. Argentina 500.60
5. Mexico 489.95
The difference
between teams was much greater in the compulsory scores -- a
30-point
spread from first to fifth as opposed to a 14-point spread in
optionals. At 270.05, Cuba just
barely managed a 9.0 average in compulsories.
1. Eric Lopez CUB 108.75 (only one to average 9.0+)
2. Sinayski Nunez CUB 107.15 (defected yesterday)
3. Luis Enrique Nunez CUB 105.600
4. Lazaro Lamela CUB 105.40
5. Damian Merino CUB 104.30 (includes a 6.0 HB disaster)
6. Richard Ikeda CAN 103.55
7. Jason Papp CAN 103.20
8. Eduardo Haro MEX 102.85
9. Victor Colon PUR 102.45
10. Darren Bersuk CAN 102.00
11. Isidro Ibarrondo ARG 101.65
12. Pedro Tort PUR 100.90
13. Jason Hardabura CAN 100.85
14. Marcelo Palacio ARG 100.60
15. Diego Lizardi PUR 100.05
I guess that's plenty
for general consumption. Of course
there's more; if
anyone is interested in further
detail, email me.
Adriana
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Date:
Fri, 08 Jul 94 02:03:51 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Yurchenko 1/2 cum Hristikeiva
It
is a Hristikeiva a la Snejana
and I think that the '92 Olympics was the
meet
that named it after her though I didn't see her vault so who knows.
Susan
BTW,
isn't Snejana Hristikieva
the coolest name?????
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Date:
Thu, 07 Jul 94 23:21:27 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Yurchenko 1/2 front vault
An interesting tidbit
from a '94 Euros tape I'm now watching (thank you
*very*
much - you know who you are). The Eurosport commentator says the
newly
common Yurchenko 1/2-front vault is called a "Hristakieva' in the Code
(I assume after Snejana). Can
anyone confirm this? It would be
nice if it
was called this, so we can all stop
saying 'Yurchenko 1/2 front' ad
nauseum...
Mara
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