gymn
Digest
Sun, 24 Apr 94 Volume 2 :
Issue 113
Today's Topics:
(spoil) 2nd day, all scores
Belenky and Boginskaya
horse specialists
Men's AA (2 msgs)
Men's AA & Women's EF Comments
Milo's Dance, Dawes' BB, etc etc
Mo's UB Trick (3 msgs)
More comments (2 msgs)
NCAA Women - event finals
NCAA women - event finals - complete scores
NCAA Women - Team finals
Oh One Last Thing...
Video Taped?? PLEASE!
Women's AA comments (2 msgs)
Worlds results now at PSU
This is a digest of the
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Date:
Sun, 24 Apr 1994 12:14:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***@owlnet.rice.edu>
Subject:
(spoil) 2nd day, all scores
Scores via AP:
MEN
Vault
1. Vitaly
Scherbo, Belarus, 9.674 points.
2. Li Xiaoshuang,
China, 9.618.
3. Yeo
Hong-Chul, South Korea, 9.600.
4. Ivan Ivankov,
Belarus, 9.481.
5. Yoo Ok-Ryul, South Korea,
9.356.
6. Masanori
Suzuki, Japan, 9.275.
7.
Murat Canbas, Turkey, 9.225.
8. Grigory
Misutin, Ukraine, 9.187.
Parallel Bars
1. Huang Liping,
China, 9.775.
2. Rustam Charipov, Ukraine,
9.612.
3. Alexei Nemov, Russia, 9.575.
4. Evgeni
Chabaev, 9.550.
(tie)
Ivan Ivanov, Bulgaria, 9.550.
6. Vitaly
Scherbo, Belarus, 9.525.
7. Jung Jin-Soo,
South Korea, 9.487.
8.
Lee Joo-Hyung, South Korea, 9.450.
Horizontal Bar
1. Vitaly
Scherbo, Belarus, 9.687.
2. Zoltan
Supola, Hungary, 9.537.
3. Ivan Ivankov,
Belarus, 9.550.
4. Chainey Umphrey, United States,
9.487.
5. Csaba Fajkusz, Hungary,
9.450.
6. Aljaz Pegan, Slovenia,
9.275.
7. Boris Preti, Italy, 9.225.
8. Jari Monkkonen, Finland, 8.950.
WOMEN
Balance Beam
1. Shannon Miller, United States,
9.875.
2. Lilia Podkopayeva, Ukraine, 9.737.
3. Oxana
Fabrichnova, Russia, 9.712.
4. Nadia Hategan,
Romania, 9.687.
5. Lavinia Milosovici, Romania,
9.675.
6. Dominique
Dawes, United States, 9.650.
7. Qiao Ya, China,
9.212.
8. Julia Stratmann, Germany, 8.650.
Floor Exercise
1. Dina Kochetkova,
Russia, 9.850.
2. Lavinia Milosovici, Romania,
9.837.
3. Gina Gogean, Romania, 9.762.
4. Shannon Miller, United States,
9.687.
5. Yelena Piskun, Belarus, 9.675.
6. Dominique Dawes, United States,
9.662.
7. Mo Huilan, China, 9.462.
8. Svetlana Chorkina,
Russia, 8.487.
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Date: Sun, 24
Apr 94 16:52:31 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Belenky
and Boginskaya
>Aw, heck, Susan. That's
not love--that's HORMONES! ;-)
I
never said it was "love" just a crush....and
what guy (stuck in the middle
of nowhere - or 45
minutes from Moscow, it's roughly the same thing - working
out 8 hours a day) wouldn't get into a hormones twitter with
Bogie around
esp. comparing her to the other
"little girls" running around Krugloye.
She's
the closet thing gym has to a sexpot... (and Julia
Volpe) :-)
Thanks for your support even if you don't always agree with
me (it would be
soo
boring if everyone did!!)...Actually, "gymn"
has been very nice to me.
I've gotten so used to being verbally beaten up
at meets ("Hey Commie that
Russian Girl took a hop"...actual
quote from '92 Am. Cup about Kozlova vs
Zmeskal...of course Kozlova did a double but hey who's to nitpick?). I was
actually smacked with a flag in Indy for refusing to give
Kim a standing O
for her team FX (those pointy
eagles on top hurt!). God Bless America...land
of
the closed minded. Yeah I'm bitter
and cynical...but those are my GOOD
points!
Susan
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Date:
Sun, 24 Apr 1994 18:46:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu>
Subject:
horse specialists
Does anyone realize that in 1981, Doug Keiso (Northern Illinois) won NCAA
horse without dismounting to a handstand. He was the last champ to do
this until last night.
WHAT A MEET!!!
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Date:
Sun, 24 Apr 94 18:53:20 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Men's AA
Scattered
impressions:
Scherbo falls once, screws up
rings and still places 3rd? (Nice middle pass
on
FX, though; at least some variation on the front tumbling theme)
Front
tumbling sux (well, cheap overrated front tumbling
does; double fronts
or double twisting layout
fronts are ok).
Fashion no-no's: the Christmas look from Ivankov, Scott Keswick's parachute
shorts.
HB
compulsory: wrong-grip Endo, Kovacs, layout double-double
Belenki's V, almost off the podium: I've seen people fall off the
podium
twice, and I hate to say it, but it's kind
of funny.
Do men ever get deducted for bending their knees at the
start of a tap on HB?
I found
the routines generally kind of sloppy.
Maybe part of the reason men's
gymnastics can't shake the "wus" or
"fag"
image in the US is the Soviet men kissing each other on the
lips.
Why does Bart C. pronounce planche
"plange"?
Chechi
is God (on rings anyway!).
I loved the part of the '50 Worlds when
they said gymnastics is about "well
mannered
muscles." How apt! :)
--
Gimnasta
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Date:
Sun, 24 Apr 1994 21:13:04 -0400
From: <***@wam.umd.edu>
Subject:
Men's AA
Just wanted to say that I did not agree with your comment on
Soviet
men kissing each other on the lips.....that
is common place for that
country
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Date:
Sun, 24 Apr 94 20:09:55 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Men's AA &
Women's EF Comments
In 37 minutes of Men's AA coverage they showed
almost twice the performances
of the Women's AA
which took up 54 minutes. More
people and more interesting
routines were shown
(though Voropaev and Ivankov
could have been featured
more since , they did
after all, go one two). Ohmygawd Alexei...what have
you
done to your hair? Did he lose a bet? Men shouldn't have bangs as a
general
rule anyway and it's particularly sad
considering he is SO good looking as a
general
rule. Also, in the really bad leos
department... Ivankov's red pants
(they blinded the judges and his PH was the best we saw). The
guys should NOT
wear colored pants as it totally
distracts from their line. Igor
Korobchinskii
get's "cutest gymnast" award even though at one point he used
to be able to do the most stunning p-bars and now he crosses
his feet during
his Healys
though the routine was awesome in content at least (major run on
sentance). Also, Ukraine finally
got a leo that wasn't
electric in
nature...Yippie! Sorry, about my earlier post that said Voropaev's
Kovacs-hop-Kovacs was in combo...only
repeating what Nance said...must have
misunderstood
her. Overall the men looked pretty lackluster...very
depressing.
The fact that Scott bombing as usual placed that highly is proof
enough of what a bad men's meet this was.
Oh wow
does Russia own the rights to the layout Pak Salto or what?
Fab...Khorkina is such a giant...great line. Luo
Li is definitely not "Lu
Li". Will the Chinese never cease coming
up with better and more interesting
UB sets? She blew my mind (as did Mo).
Too many cool things to mention
individ.
Kochetkova has the greatest double layout (and that
Pak Salto I
mentioned earlier). Standing on bars
is BAD!!! Svetlana you're 5'4" why the
cheap
transitions?
Miller was clean but her difficulty was only so-so...esp.
since we know what
she can (or could) do. She was
the only one to stick though & I hate how much
that
seems to be worth nowdays. No one is more extended
than the Pod!
Fabrichnova grew what 8" in the
last year? I barely recognized her! I can't
believe
that she can still fit all that stuff on the beam. The
cradle is so
cool. She get's the fastest layouts
award...they were a blur. Very
clean,
very extended... overall the Russian girls
are miles ahead (as a team...there
are other good indivds) of anyone else in the form & overall
presentation
department...something that was not
true last year. They look way more "Sov"
now. <big sigh of relief>
Milos may have the ugliest composition ever on her
BB set though her line
has improved (but that's thanks mostly to a growth
spurt)
her choreography is atrocious! She's tall enoughthough
for her middle
pass of FF layout FF layout to be
very impressive. The last layout is almost
a
Gainer. Yet another Chinese (split
leap punch front...awesome) won this
event but for
the fall...Li Li fell of on some dumbass thing like a
full in
qualifying.
Milos has the best
tumbling of the meet (she flips, she twists, she does
foreward landings, and puch
fronts)... Dawes' does have good tumbling passes
but
the "dance" (I HATE to call it that) is such an insult to
"Carmen".
She's so spassy. Jumping and
bouncing like she's got a bee up her butt with
no
apparent notice of her music what-so-ever. Just drives me insane (gee
could you tell?)!
Shannon's routine was so simple (even those relatively
simple passes are not well done like at least she did the
easier stuff on
beam well) and it's just getting
so old... I hate to think what would have
happened
if she hadn't gone OB. ..a medal for that would have
been real sad.
Only when you're 14 and 4'3" can you do Mo's
dance...cute as a button...and
I'm not a big fan of "cute". Also the most
difficult Chinese tumbling I've
ever seen (even if
she didn't hit it here). News
flash...Piskun got a good
leo! She & Dina were the only one's to have 4
passes and Dina's double layout
was super clean.
Her (Kochetkova's) dance was awful..good form, great double
lay,
bad dance...gold medalist...I just don't know...if only Milos landings
had been cleaner. No one really impressed me here.
How
come when Dawes misses a vault it's "bad luck" and when a gymnast
from
another country makes an error it's due to "lack of
concentration"?
I wonder what national anthem the Belarussian team had this time?
Did you know that the
one we heard so much of (with those weird flitty
sounds in the middle - 7 of 'em we
counted) in Barcelona was NOT the one used
in 1993
when Scherbo won (he didn't really seem to
notice)...
Okay You can Let Me Have It
Now,
Susan
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Date: Sun,
24 Apr 94 16:53:06 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Milo's Dance, Dawes'
BB, etc etc
When I
said that Milos was better in dance I meant than Shannon (and the few
others we saw)
and her own past sets. She's
at least trying to be
artistic...she IS Romanian
so that's pretty darn tough.
I saw Yulia Yurkina
go up after Dawes (BTW they use the same FX music only Yulia can dance her
brains
out...tumbling on the other hand is kinda a
problem...but she is
stunning!) so
she was there. Poor Yulia not even the top 30!! Ah
the horror.
A double layout mount (esp. from someone as old and tall as
Milos) with a
triple twist dismount and a 2 1/2 to
punch front middle pass is way way WAY
more impressive than a
pike full-in, front full front punch front etc
set.
A short landing on a
double layout should be worth as much as a stuck landing
on
a double pike due to the difficulty diff's. I'm so sick to death of seeing
our beautiful and complex sport being reduced to nothing
more than "stuck
landings." It's the bow
on top not the entire present! If they have a fab set
and
stick...awesome. If they have a fab set and throw every trick in the book
and take a step...just as awesome. C'mon, Shannon is a good
gymnast (as is
Gogean) but B-O-R-I-N-G! Her
tricks are pretty hard and done with reasonably
good
form but two minutes after she's done you're going "What she do?"
She's
utterly forgettable. She has zero presence
and personality (see "IG" diary
from
last year...and that was after they asked her to spice it up!!!!!!).
I
don't have major probs with her winning (though I
can't fully say
considering we didn't see the
bronze medalist but if her other sets were
anything
like her bars...). Milos was gifted on BB and her UB's were just
so-so. Miller was handed vault & FX scores on a silver
platter it's 6 of one
half dozen of the other if
you ask me...though what Milos did well she did
better,
or at least with more emotion, than Miller.
Dawes vault...Yeah I know
a fall and roll is still only a .5 dyed. (I also
know
that judges don't get paid it was a snide remark on my part as to how
much the US is bribing them). There should be additional
deductions for form
breaks and loss of
control...at least those things used to count. Dawes BB.
Thank God, she
didn't get the gold!!!! Her content is good but her
form...Ohmygawd...It couldn't be worse if she tried (at least I
hope not!).
Never a pointed toe, or a moment on revele (up on her toes), never a
straight leg (those flip-flops!!!! You could drive a semi
between her
legs...) I know I've said this before,
and I will undoubtably say it again,
where the hell are the form deductions?
Oops, looks
like my prediction came true and Pegan missed his
Gaylord Barani
out. What
is in the water in Slovenia (besides asbestos)? These are guys are
nuts. First the guy in '92 with the Kovacs full (no really)
and now
Alejaz...what he was too scared to go
backwards?
Yeah, Brett and I noticed right off that Gogean has recycled Silivas's
routine down to the dance (not there was any of that in
Daniela's sets)
Trivia fact...did anyone else that get's
"Technique" notice that they had a
section
called corrections and they spelled "corections"
wrong. (create your
own
snide comment here...it's just to easy to waste my considerable talent at
put downs on)
That's enough for now...I'm sure after EF I'll be ranting
again so look
out...
Susan
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Date:
Sun, 24 Apr 94 16:51:50 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Mo's UB
Trick
Hey, it's a Gaylord not a Kovacs. A Gaylord is a double FRONT
over the bar
and a Kovacs is a double BACK over
the bar. Did anyone else notice
that she
also managed to POINT HER TOES!! To see
an outstanding new skill like that
done is
incredible but to see it done so well is beyond belief!!!! As for her
connections...They're probably harder for her than the
Gaylord what with her
being 4'3" and all (and
I thought Lu Li's Hecht was the highest I'd ever
see!). I have no problem what-so-ever
with her score. In comparision to
everyone else she was starting from a 15.0 and they deducted
accordingly!
Also on the subject of UB connections...I noted that last
year many otherwise
amazing UB workers were using
a stand on the low bar to make their HB
transition.
I know it's legal and all but it sure is ugly!!!!!!! Kotchetkova
has no excuse anymore either since she's grown so much since
last year. It
really kills an otherwise awesome bar set!!
Susan
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Date:
Sun, 24 Apr 1994 17:17:18 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***@owlnet.rice.edu>
Subject:
Mo's UB Trick
Susan (and Gimnasta) pointed
out that:
| Hey, it's a Gaylord not a Kovacs. A Gaylord is a double FRONT
over the bar
| and a Kovacs is a double BACK over
the bar. Did anyone else notice
that she
Sorry...
For those new to Gymn,
just thought I'd note that Mo's been throwing
her
GAYLORD on bars for a little while now... she introduced it
internationally at the Jr. Pacific Alliance, in Australia
(hmmm...
guess she defies the reputation of
"down under"), in December of last
year. (It was December, right?)
This
Lu Li looked to be a different Lu Li from the Olympics, but I
couldn't quite tell.
What's the verdict?
| Also on the subject of UB connections...I
noted that last year many otherwise
| amazing UB
workers were using a stand on the low bar to make their HB
| transition. I know it's legal and all but it sure is
ugly!!!!!!! Kotchetkova
I remember Fabrichnova in particular using this transition. I don't
like
the skill particularly either, but I still really liked
Kotchetkova's
routine. Yeah, there were form
breaks, but it was just
so different from all the
rest that it was a really nice treat.
Rachele
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Date:
Sun, 24 Apr 94 19:13:05 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Mo's UB
Trick
>This Lu Li looked to be a different Lu Li from the Olympics,
but I
couldn't quite tell. What's the verdict?
Looked like
a different Luo Li to me. Also, the routine was 99% different
than the other Lu Li's.
Stobi, any comments?
Mara
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Date:
Sun, 24 Apr 94 15:20:29 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: More
comments
Lori:
>BTW - Does the Yurchenko
half off - layout front vault seem like a
much
easier way to earn a 10.0 start value than a double twist?
>It seems
everyone is using it.
Yes.
Make that YES. You can
always tell the easiest way of scoring as high
as
possible by noting how many gymnasts do a skill.
Rachele:
>How
in the world can a judge afford to take a week off and judge
a Worlds
>if she doesn't get any compensation
for it?
Federations do pay for travel, and maybe some can do more to
help their
judges
attend. I don't really know
(haven't judged anything I had to travel
to yet;
I'm only a baby judge <g>).
On more of Rachele's
comments, I too thought there were a lot of
less-than-clean-sets
(including Kochetkova's bars, however. I mean, I did
like her, but she wasn't totally clean, and she does that
horrible transition
standing on the LB, which I
*despise*). And the supposed
artistry is just an
embarrassment around real
dancer types.
I'd like to agree with all those who said Milosovici looked uninspired on
floor.
I'm
acquiring a new appreciation for the fact that Shushunova
landed a
Yurchenko 1-1/2 regularly.
Robyn (and Rachele):
>
Kovacs (is that the right name?)
Actually, it's a Gaylord (a Kovacs
goes the other direction, out of back
giants).
More
later (after TV)!
-- Gimnasta
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Date:
Sun, 24 Apr 94 18:20:29 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: More
comments
gimnasta
said:
>and she does that horrible
transition
standing on the LB, which I
*despise*)
I agree completely!!! It's bad enough watching 10 year olds
do it, but a
world bronze medalist??? It should be banned unless a skill of
value is done
immediately out of it (Rhonda Faehn did a stand on the hb to an
immediate
double-twist off).
Mara
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Date:
Sun, 24 Apr 1994 10:37:40 +0800
From: ***@Eng.Sun.COM
Subject: NCAA
Women - event finals
Ahh, a much more satisfying evening. The soccer fans for the
most part stayed at home, and the format and ambience were
very
conducive to watching some good
gymnastics. Seeing how
everyone
competing was by default a specialist (or
incredibly lucky),
pretty much everything you saw
made you say "Wow!" (just like
John Tesh ;^)
Vault
1 Jenny Hansen (Kentucky) 9.9375
2 Suzanne
Metz (Utah) 9.8000
3
Agina Simpkins (Georgia) 9.7875
3 Katie Freeland (ASU) 9.7875
5
Tina Brinkman (ASU) 9.7750
6
Chasity Junkin (Alabama) 9.7625
6 Kim Kelly
(Alabama) 9.7625
Never
mind that Simpkins and Freeland both had nicer vaults than
Metz, Jenny Hansen
clearly deserved to win this one.
Her two
vaults (HS front tucked with 1/2,
HS front piked with 1/2) were
head
and shoulders above everyone elses. That piked
vault looks
pretty tricky, by the way. And, even
though some might argue (me
included) that it's
harder to land a front, than to twist, a HS
front
with a twist sure is nicer to watch. For this reason I'm
glad
she chose to twist both of them.
Bars
1 Beth Wymer (Michigan) 9.950
1
Sandy Woolsey (Utah) 9.950
1
Lori Strong (Georgia) 9.950
4
Kim Kelly (Alabama) 9.900
5
Kristen Guise (Florida) 9.875
5
Aimee Trepanier (Utah) 9.875
Three-way
tie for first. The three all
had very nice bar sets,
but scoring everybody high
shows its weakness here.
Surely
somebody had a nicer set than the
rest. But If
everybody is
saturated at the top, and you're
afraid to give out tens because
that would make
the scoring look too easy ;^), well, what do you
get? A three-way tie for
first. Strong, to me, showed
the best
form of all (although she took out the
"Strong" for reasons she
described in
the press conference. It's pretty
obvious, really:
it's kind of risky and she could
substitute other stuff in to
keep the starting
value a 10.)
At any rate, they were all nice routines, and the winner
would be
the one who the judges thought made the
fewest bobbles and/or got
full value for their
elements. Everyone was happy (especially
Beth Wymer,
who was the defending champion with Agina Simpkins
of
Georgia). My favorite
dismount is the laid-out double, which
Strong does. The full-in may
be just as hard, but it looks kind
of busy.
Kim
Kelly's mount (back somi over the low bar to grasp)
was my
favorite mount and made everybody go "Ooooh".
Beam
Such a scary
event, especially to music by James Taylor ;^)
1 Jenny Hansen (Kentucky) 9.975
2 Beth Wymer (Michigan) 9.900
3
Kristen Guise (Florida) 9.875
4
Agina Simpkins (Georgia) 9.825
4 Traci Crover
(OSU) 9.825
4
Chari Knight (OSU) 9.825
Jenny
Hansen didn't give the judges any choice but to give her
the
gold. She went up first and nailed
it without a hitch. If I
had been one of the others I would have refused to go up (I
think
Deep Purple did this when Led Zeppelin opened for them in '68.
Where
was I?) At any rate, the scores
were all nicely
differentiated. It's very easy to see any bobble on beam
when
it's the only event and everybody's watching
you perform to James
Taylor.
Chari Knight was probably the sentimental favorite, this
being her last beam (weep). She had some trouble on her
dismount
and had to take a step or two. Still, I tried to soak it all up
to make a tape loop in my mind for when I want to envision
beauty
or don't have anything better to do
;^)
Floor
1 Hope Spivey-Sheeley
(Georgia) 10.000
2
Kim Kelly (Alabama)
9.975
3 Tina Brinkman (ASU)
9.950
4 Becky Ervin (Auburn)
9.925
5 Jenny Hansen (Kentucky)
9.900
5 Suzanne Metz (Utah)
9.900
5 Aimee Trepanier (Utah)
9.900
5 Megan Caudle (Utah)
9.900
I had the feeling that if Hope nailed her set she would
take it.
She did and did. Then
she got a standing ovation and started to
cry. It's really sad seeing a lot of these
women leave. But
what are you going to do?
Chari Knight (9th, 9.850)
had the unenviable task of going first
after
having gone last on the event before.
She was still
breathing hard before her
routine. Kareema
Marrow (12th, UCLA,
9.400) had the only fall,
which is a pity, because she is one
excellent
tumbler (*Beautiful* double layout mount, full-in,
double
back piked dismount, couldn't quite pull it
around.) Man,
it takes guts to try to pull that pike around at the end
when
you're breathing heavy. I could kind of tell on her
approach
that she didn't quite have the speed to
pull it off. Still, it
was one of my favorite routines.
Tina Brinkman,
wow, she is crazy. Tons of
difficulty and you get
the impression that she may
be a little crazy, which is scary.
Hide the kids! She might tumble on them! Suzanne Metz, in
contrast
is very precise and incredibly elegant.
Kelli Wolsey
has Shannon Miller's floor
music, which is disconcerting because
it's just a
*little* different in spots.
And that's about it!
-George
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Date:
Sun, 24 Apr 1994 10:39:52 +0800
From: ***@Eng.Sun.COM
Subject: NCAA
women - event finals - complete scores
Vault
1. Jenny Hansen, Kentucky,
9.9375.
2. Suzanne Metz,
Utah, 9.8.
3. Agina Simpkins, Georgia, 9.7875.
3. Katie Freeland, Arizona St.,
9.7875.
5. Tina
Brinkman, Arizona St., 9.775.
6. Chastity Junkim, Alabama, 9.7625.
tie Kim
Kelly, Alabama, 9.7625.
8. Amanda Turko, Oregon St., 9.6625.
9. Karen Nelson, UCLA,
9.5375.
10. Missy
Wells-Taylor, Utah, 9.425.
Uneven Bars
1. Beth Wymer,
Michigan, 9.95.
tie Sandy Woolsey, Utah, 9.95.
tie Lori
Strong, Georgia, 9.95.
4. Kim Kelly, Alabama, 9.9.
5. Kristen Guise, 9.875.
tie Aimee
Trepanier, Utah, 9.875.
tie Kara Stilp, Alabama, 9.875.
8. Kelli Wolsey, Utah, 9.825.
9. Amy Myerson, Florida,
9.725.
10. Renee Runyon,
Oregon St., 9.2.
11. Tina Brinkman, Arizona St.,
9.175.
Balance Beam
1. Jenny Hansen, Kentucky,
9.975.
2. Beth Wymer, Michigan, 9.9.
3. Kristen Guise, Florida,
9.875.
4. Agina Simpkins, Georgia, 9.825.
tie Traci
Crover, Oregon St., 9.825.
tie Chari
Knight, Oregon St., 9.825.
7. Missy Wells-Taylor, Utah, 9.775.
8. Aida Canovas,
Louisiana St., 9.6.
Floor
1. Hope Spivey-Sheeley,
Georgia, 10.0.
2. Kim
Kelly, Alabama, 9.975.
3. Tina Brinkman, Arizona St., 9.95.
4. Becky Erwin, Auburn, 9.925.
5. Jenny Hansen, Kentucky,
9.9.
tie
Suzanne Metz, Utah, 9.9.
tie Aimee Trepanier,
Utah, 9.9.
tie Megan Caudle, Utah, 9.9.
9. Chari Knight, Oregon St.,
9.85.
10. Meredith
Willard, Alabama, 9.825.
11. Jennifer Wood, Louisiana St., 9.55.
12. Kareema
Marrow, UCLA 9.4.
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Date: Sun,
24 Apr 1994 09:46:22 +0800
From: ***@Eng.Sun.COM
Subject: NCAA Women -
Team finals
A million apologies if this is
not timely. The computer I was
using
in Utah crashed sometime Friday
morning. Still down. Had to wait
until
I got home to gain access to a computer.
The miracles of the
information
superhighway!
Ahem, at any rate, here are the team standings:
Place Team Vault Bars Beam Floor Total
1 Utah 49.525 49.325 48.300 49.250 196.400
2 Alabama 49.050 49.350 48.950 49.000 196.350
3 Georgia 49.325 49.275 48.075 49.175 195.850
4 Michigan 49.125 48.400 48.950 48.675 195.150
5 UCLA 49.350 48.250 48.450 48.925 194.975
6 Florida 48.775 48.275 48.975 48.825 194.850
Given
the intensity of the scene at the Huntsman Center on the
Utah campus, it
was hard to focus on good gymnastics.
However,
here are a handful of
*
Highlights
Alabama's UB - Highest bar score of the
night. They looked to
be
kicking butt over there, sticking everything in
sight. Stephanie
Woods' set was
especially beautiful; long and elegant, fully
extended on her giants.
Kim Kelly's (remember her?) was equally
graceful. And she was like glue on her piked double dismount.
Utah - The women smelled
the comeback trail. Even though
they
clearly had the fans and momentum (and, some
might argue, judges)
in their corner, it takes a
lot to stick after coming so close to
elimination
the night before.
Florida's Beam - Highest beam score of the night, as
was the case
the night before (48.875). I didn't realize they were such a
good beam team.
UCLA & Michigan - To come in
4th and 5th in the nation is sweet.
UCLA is starting to show consistency
from year to year. And for
Michigan
to waltz in off the street to take 4th at nationals is
phenomenal.
And these two teams were
really having a good time. They
weren't
expected to take first so they could just
go out there and
concentrate on hitting their
routines. That's the way it
should
be in the first place.
Georgia -
Defending champion is an unenviable position.
Especially competing in
"enemy territory" (Utah will surely feel
this
next year.) Georgia had some
trouble on beam and had to
count two falls. That was it right there. It pretty much came
down to that.
Seeing how it was their last event, and Utah was
on
floor, well, you can just imagine what that scene was like.
Factor in the
nagging feeling that some of the judges seemed to
have
it in for the team, and it's amazing that they came so close
to winning at all!
Which is a perfect lead in
for
* Lowlights
The crowd - As Gomer Pyle would say,
"Shame shame shame!" What
an
ugly crowd on Friday. It was a
football crowd, not a
gymnastics crowd. There's no excuse for cheering when
somebody
falls off beam (Leslie Angeles of
GA.) What an embarrassment.
It
makes me glad that men's gymnastics is "unpopular" if
popularity means packing the auditorium with a bunch of
people
that neither know nor care to know
anything about gymnastics.
That's the sort of attitude to expect when
people get too into
the scoring. "Only a 9.95? Get a life, judge!!" A National
championship
would be a perfect time to highlight the beauty of
gymnastics,
the tremendous virtuosity and skill. Not cheering
when
someone from another team falls off beam!
I thought that
the Utah crowd would have
been above that sort of thing.
The scoring - Can't really point
fingers here. I guess it's
inevitable.
There really is such a thing as a home court
advantage. Judges are human and they tend to be
influenced by
crowds and conditions. It might have been the same way had
the
championships been held at Alabama or
Georgia. Last year's in
Oregon
had the advantage that the home team didn't make finals,
so
things were pretty neutral. This
year, the Utah scores seemed
consistently high
(now, mind you, I'm no judge, but I know
something
about the code of points.) The
scoring for the rest of
the teams seemed pretty
good, except Georgia's, which always ran
lower
than I anticipated. A tenth here and there.
It adds up.
When the championship is determined by .05, well...
Speaking
of scoring, why have a ten point scale if you're
only
going to use 1.5% of it? I thought the new rules were
supposed
to fix this. It's crazy. They've got to do something about NCAA
women's scoring.
Oh well, enough about
that. I congratulate this year's
NCAA
women.
They're all winners. I'm in
the midst of some fine
gymnastics. Saturday's session promises to be very
rewarding.
Yours in Gymnastics,
-George
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Date:
Sun, 24 Apr 94 17:03:56 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Oh One Last
Thing...
As for "the common folk" really enjoying ABC's coverge. I contend that if you
don't
know anything then you'll be just as happy to see whatever they show.
If
you don't know about Olga or Kim or anyone then you won't miss seeing
their flashbacks. No country but ours deals in such high
production values
when it comes to sports and the
rest of the world seems to roll along just
fine.
In Japan, the most technologically obssessed country
in the world, the
occasional interview and replay
is the extent of "sidebars" and these always
occur
AFTER the comp. has concluded. They get to see just
about everybody on
just about every event and
usually it's live or as close to it as they can
get
due to time lags. That way you can judge, with all the facts, who should
or shouldn't have
won and how fair it is or isn't. The ABC coverage is geared
towards making the ignorant believe that the US is the
greatest thing since
sliced bread when it comes to
gym and they only show things that coincide
with
that view. They believe (I hope
wrongly) that American's will not tune
into a
sport that they're not the best in...I hope that they're
underestimating
our intelligence (if not our - my -
ability to spell)
Susan
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Date:
Sun, 24 Apr 1994 16:37:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: ***@sas.upenn.edu
Subject:
Video Taped?? PLEASE!
My TV reception for the ABC world's
is TERRIBLE! I can make out a giant
here and
there, and thats about it. Is there ANYONE out there
who has
recorded the worlds (Both days)? I will be
more than willing to send a
video tape, pay the
postage and all that, I just am asking for you to dub
it
for me. Please, I finally get to watch some professionals in action and
all I can make out are that some things are less fuzzy than
the others.
Desperately,
GLENN
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Date:
Sun, 24 Apr 1994 12:39:12 +0800
From: ***@Eng.Sun.COM
Subject: Women's
AA comments
Rachele writes:
I'll bet that's the first time that many
Gymners have seen Olga's
full routine
(only the second time I have, the first time being on
the ABC
tape).
What a bunch of young whippersnappers you are! I remember seeing this
on ABC way back when they first brodacast
it! It's what got me into
gymnastics (apparently a lot of other people, too.) I remember right
then
and there jumping into my horse and buggy and riding into town
so I could spread the news...
;^)
-George
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Date:
Sun, 24 Apr 1994 18:43:05 -0400
From: ***@cykick.jvnc.net
Subject:
Women's AA comments
George writes about Rachele's
observation that yesterday's ABC's coverage
may
have been the first that many have seen "Olga's full routine":
>What
a bunch of young whippersnappers you are!
I remember seeing this
>on ABC way back
when they first brodacast it! It's what got me into
>gymnastics (apparently a lot of other people, too.)
I
remember it too - and what ABC showed yesterday was NOT the "full
routine."
There were actually one or two tricks before "the big
moment"
where ABC picked it up
yesterday.
BTW, I've never received an answer to my long-held
question, "Whatever
happened to Gordon
Maddux?" Is he still
alive??? For those who don't
know
but watched yesterday, he was the one who
replied to Jim McKay's question
"has it been
done by a girl before" exclaimed:
"Not by any HUMAN!"
Helena
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Date:
Sun, 24 Apr 1994 13:31:59 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***@owlnet.rice.edu>
Subject:
Worlds results now at PSU
I've put all of the results from the latest
Worlds on our ftp/gopher
site. Sometime later today or this week I will
do the same for the
NCAA scores...
Rachele
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