GYMN-L Digest - 1 Jun 1995 to 2 Jun 1995

There are 7 messages totalling 572 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. litigation and stuff
  2. June Event Calendar
  3. Trampoline
  4. results
  5. USAIGC Championships
  6. Aussie Gymnasts Tour Europe
  7. AGA and Wrist guards

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Date:    Thu, 1 Jun 1995 23:16:47 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: litigation and stuff

>It may be that, as in the States, juries favour the plantiff
>simply because they have an injury. To me though, this is not justice, it is
>using the courts as a personal health insurance policy. What do people
think?

I'm afraid the situation is actually far worse. The litigation situation in
the United States, and particularly in California, where we have one attorney
for about every 1400 people, has deteriorated badly. It has reached the point
at which the courts have become an avenue of personal enrichment. Justice is
a joke. If you are the owner of a gym and someone gets hurt on your premesis,
even if you have done everything in your power to prevent injury, you have
about a 50-50 chance of winning in court. Because the Gym I managed was
financed by foreign interests, our attorney estimated that in such a
circumstance the chance of justice prevailing was less than 35 %.

There are so many activities that we could not offer, including trampoline
teams, cheerleading, rock-climbing, etc. simply because of our fear of
litigation. It has made gymnastics more expensive for everyone, and it has
put many good gyms out of business.

But we digress. I only wonder what kind of damage this litigous attitude and
its apparently inexorable progress will do to the long term viability of
gymnastics in the USA.

Isn't it interesting that Russia, Ukraine, Romania, and China have among the
lowest numbers of attorneys per-capita in the world.

David

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jun 1995 00:13:13 -0400
From:    ***@DELPHI.COM
Subject: June Event Calendar

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The Gymn Calendar

Anyone that has any events to add to this calendar, please mail them
to me.
All events on this calendar are subject to change.  -- John
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 June 1995
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
             1  2  3
 4  5  6  7  8  9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30

5-10            USAIGC Championships/ Orlando, FL
8-11            Canadian RSG Championships/ Winnipeg, Manitoba
9-11            USAG Rhythmic National Championships/ Jacksonville, FL
10-14           "Hopoel" Games (M/W/R)/ Tel Aviv, Israel
16-18           European Cup Final/ Rome, Italy
17-18           Budget Rent-A-Car Invitational/ San Jose, CA
20              Arthur Gander Memorial (W)/ Montreux, Switzerland
24              BROADCAST European Cup (M)/ ABC, 4:30-6:00PM EDT
24-25           Rhythmic European Cup/ Telford, England
24-25           British Women's Team Championships/ Guildford, England
24-27           Junior Pacific Alliance (M/W/R)/ Cali, Colombia
25              BROADCAST/Budget Rent-A-Car Invit./ NBC, 3:00-5:00PM EDT
30-7/2          Senior British Women's Championships/ Guildford, England
TBA             BROADCAST/USAG Rhythmic National Champ./ CBS, TBA
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 July 1995
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
                   1
 2  3  4  5  6  7  8
 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30 31

1-9             Special Olympics World Summer Games/ New Haven, CT
1               BROADCAST European Cup (W)/ ABC, 4:30-6:00PM EDT
6-9             Jr./Sr. Group Rhythmic European Champ./ Prague, Czech. Repub.
7-8             National Elite Gymnastics Festival (W)/ TBA
9-12            YMCA Nationals/ Savannah, GA
9-15            10th World Gymnaestrada/ Berlin, Germany
10-14           European Youth Olympic Days/ Bath, ??
10-16           Puerto Rico Cup (M/W)/ San Juan, Puerto Rico
16-23           USSAF Sports Acro Nationals/ Rockford, IL
21-30           U.S. Olympic Festival (M/W/R)/ Denver, CO
21-23           U.S. Classic Nationals/ Birmingham, AL
TBA             BROADCAST U.S. Olympic Fest. (M/W/R)/ TBA
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 August 1995
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
       1  2  3  4  5
 6  7  8  9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31

12              Gymn's Third Anniversary
15-20           Western Canada Summer Games (M/W/R)/ Abbotsford, BC
16-19           Coca-Cola USA Championships (M/W)/ New Orleans, LA
19              BROADCAST Coca-Cola USA Champ. (M/W)/NBC, 8:00PM EDT
20              BROADCAST Coca-Cola USA Champ. (M/W)/NBC, 7:00PM EDT
17-20           USA Gymnastics National Congress/ New Orleans, LA
23-9/8          World University Games (M/W/R)/ Fukuoka, Japan
30-31           Int'l Junior Competition/ Yokohama, Japan
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 September 1995
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
                1  2
 3  4  5  6  7  8  9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30

1-3             FIG General Gymnastics Colloquium/ Copenhagen, Denmark
8-9             NationsBank U.S. World Team Trials (M/W)/ TBA
19-24           Rhythmic World Championships/ Vienna, Austria
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 October 1995
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
 1  2  3  4  5  6  7
 8  9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30 31

1-10            Artistic World Championships/ Sabae City, Japan
4-7             Olympic Congress of the USA/ Atlanta, GA
8               BROADCAST World Champs/ ABC, TBD
15              BROADCAST World Champs/ ABC, TBD
27-30           Third Annual USA National GymFest/ Carmel, IN
28-29           Junior Women's British Championships/ Liverpool, England
28-29           Camberley International (W)/ Camberley, England
28-29           Trofeo Trinacria d'Oro (W)/ Catania, Italy
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 November 1995
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
          1  2  3  4
 5  6  7  8  9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30

1-4             Australia Cup/ Sidney, Australia
6-13            Sports Acro World Championships/ Wroclaw, Poland
16-17           Pre-Olympic Invitational (M/W)/ Atlanta, GA
24-26           DTB Cup/ Stuttgart, Germany
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 December 1995
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
                1  2
 3  4  5  6  7  8  9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31

1-3             Swiss Cup/ Zurich, Switzerland
1-3             European Championships Team Final/ Charleroi, Belgium
7-8             Grand Prix/ Birmingham, England
16-17           Chunichi Cup/ Nagoya, Japan
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 January 1996
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
    1  2  3  4  5  6
 7  8  9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 31

TBA             Reese's International Gymnastics Cup (M/W)/ TBA
13              West Point Open/ West Point, NY
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 February 1996
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
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 4  5  6  7  8  9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29

3               USAG Winter Cup Challenge (M)/ Colorado Springs, CO
9-11            American Classic/ Tulsa, OK
15-20           USAG Rhythmic Challenge/ TBA
29-3/2          American Cup (M/W)/ TBA
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 March 1996
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
                1  2
 3  4  5  6  7  8  9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31

5               USAG International Mixed Pairs/ TBA
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 April 1996
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    1  2  3  4  5  6
 7  8  9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30

13              NCAA Regionals/ TBA
15-21           Artistic World Championships/ San Juan, Puerto Rico
25-27           NCAA Nationals (W)/ Tuscaloosa, AL
26-27           NCAA Nationals (M)/ TBA
27-28           USAG Elite zone championships (W)/ TBA
TBA             USAG Collegiate Championships (M/W)/ TBA
TBA             USAG Collegiate Nat'l Invit. Tournament/ Cape Girardeau, MO
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 May 1996
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          1  2  3  4
 5  6  7  8  9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31

TBA             Canadian National Champs. (M/W)/ Sault St. Marie, Ontario
16-19           U.S. Classic/ TBA
28-6/1          U.S. National Championships/ Knoxville, TN
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 June 1996
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 2  3  4  5  6  7  8
 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30

5-8             USA National Championships (M/W)/ TBA
27-30           U.S. Olympic Team Trials/ Boston, MA
27-30           USAG Congress/ Boston, MA
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 July 1996
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    1  2  3  4  5  6
 7  8  9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 31

19-8/4          Games of the XVIth Olympiad/ Atlanta, GA
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 August 1996
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 4  5  6  7  8  9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30 31

12              Gymn's Fourth Anniversary
16-27           Xth Paralympic Games/ Atlanta, Ga.
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   September 1996
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
 1  2  3  4  5  6  7
 8  9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30

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   October 1996
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
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 6  7  8  9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31

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   November 1996
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 3  4  5  6  7  8  9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30

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   December 1996
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 8  9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30 31

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 August 1997

13-16           USA National Championships (M/W)/ TBA
14-17           USAG Congress
31-9/12         World University Games, Sicily, ITA
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 July 1998

25-8/9          Goodwill Games, New York, N.Y.
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 Summer 1999

TBD             World University Games, Palma de Mallorca, ESP
TBD             XIIIth Pan American Games, Winnipeg, Manitoba, CAN
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 September 2000

16-10/1         Games of the XXVIIth Olympiad, Sydney, AUS
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 October 2000

21-11/1         XIth Paralympic Games, Sydney, AUS
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Date:    Fri, 2 Jun 1995 02:18:11 -0400
From:    ***@DELPHI.COM
Subject: Trampoline

>Ben, you are probably right about dare-devil trampolinists in the 70s, I
>don't
>know, I wasn't at an age to remember, but I think things have improved quite
>a
>lot. However, as with all sports there is still an element of
>one-up-manship,
>Kind of 'well if she can do a full twisting front somersault, I can do a 1
>1/2
>twisting one'. This is normally a good thing so long as the participants

<snip,snip,snip>

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jun 1995 12:04:14 +0000
From:    ***@BROOKES.AC.UK
Subject: results

for anyone who is interested,here are some results i found in the british
publication" The Gymnast"

GREAT BRITAIN   V  ROMANIA

womans team

Romania  387.9
GB       348.275


WELSH NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

senior men      total
1)G.Irwin      48.15
2)D.Collins    35.90
3)G.Wilson     33.75


senior women    total
1)B.Powell      35.425
2)Z.Taylor      32.725
3)N.Perry       31.725



6th INTERNATIONAL OF FRANCE-PARIS

women all around        total
1 Svetlana Chorkina RUS 38.955
2 Andreea Cacovean  ROM 38.787
3 Simona Amanar     ROM 38.762
4 Dina Kotchetkova  RUS 38.736

also in the top 10 were Oksana Chusovitina UZB (7th) and Lilia Podkopayeva
UKR(10th)

vault
1 Chorkina          RUS 9.868
2 Podkopayeva       UKR 9.831
3 Cecile Canqueteau FRA 9.506

beam
1 Canquteau             9.712
2 Podkopayeva           9.662
3 Amanar                9.575

bars
1 Laetitia Begue    FRA 9.875
2 Vassou Tsavdaridou GRE9.825
3 Joana Juarez      ESP 9.775

floor
1 Chorkina              9.887
2 Begue                 9.712
3 Yanling Mao       CHN 9.650


BRITISH TEAM GYM

senior             floor        tumbling        trampette      total

Southampton        9.0           8.5            8.2             25.7

Tamworth Olympic   8.35          8.15           7.7             24.2
Gymnastics

Bromley Valley GC  8.25          8.5            7.1             23.85
TEAM GYM
teams of between 6 and 12 gymnasts perform a group floor routine ,then 3 tumble
runs and 3 trampette jumps#Finland will host the first ever European
Championships for general team gymnastics in 1996


i also have SPORTS ACRO. and tumbling results from the British championships
and the british students championships and RHYTHMIC GYMNASTICS from an
international in Paris and the british campionships

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jun 1995 08:44:11 PDT
From:    ***@ROYALDIGITAL.COM
Subject: USAIGC Championships

Hi,

Our club has an Intermediate Optionals Team going to
Orlando.  I would really appreciate any news anyone
can give me while this is in progress...3000 miles
is too far for me to go :( .

Diane

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jun 1995 21:00:28 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Aussie Gymnasts Tour Europe

From the AAP ...

Australia's gymnasts leave next week for a four week tour of Europe. There
they will compete in the British National Championships to gain expirience
and gauge where they stand in terms of the rest of the world.

Peggy Browne (AUS gym exec.) says "We've arranged for them to compete in the
British national  championships because Britain is close to Australia in
world  ratings in men and women.It will also be an important competition for
our gymnasts  because it has compulsory and optional team routines. We can
only qualify for the Olympics as a team so our team  ranking is a critical
element in the campaign."

Australia has not had the chance to test their mettle as a team against the
new world order since both the men and women were absent from Dortmund. They
have also not had the compulsory expirience the rest of the world now has.

 "These tours and our selection trials in August will answer many  questions
for Australian gymnasts. But October will give us the  real answer on our
ranking This tour will expose our talent in the European environment,
 particularly in the compulsory sections but how we fare as a team is really
what we want to know."

After the GBR Nationals the AUS teams will go to Romania for a ROM-GBR-AUS
tri-meet [Gee wonder who will win? <g>] and then on to France.

Oz will also send a Jr. Women's team to the Pacific Alliance Juniors in
Colombia and a men's team to the University Games in Japan (August).

The teams going to Europe are ...

MEN: Andrei Kravtsov, Pavel Mamine, Nathan  Kingston (Qld), Bret Hudson,
Peter Hogan (NSW) Brennan Dowrick (ACT),  Daniel Grigson, & Brendan Mand
(WA).

"Kravtsov [a former Soviet - duh with a name like "Andrei Kratsov"] has added
depth to the team. He works hard, trains  hard and is a good competitor. The
24-year-old Dowrick is a great  role model for the younger squad members."

WOMEN: Rebecca Wilson (Qld),  Zeena McLaughlin, Susana Le, Shani Earl (Vic),
Sarah Prosser (WA),  & Katarina Frketic (NSW).

-Susan

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jun 1995 21:43:25 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: AGA and Wrist guards

To tape or not to tape (use wrist guards, braces, etc.)?

I had two sore ankles during my freshman year of college (the result of
sprains to both during senior year of high school and of the freshman -- not
fifteen -- nearly twenty).  I taped both ankles all the time.  I don't know
that it made them weaker, but it's clear to me that it prevented them from
getting stronger.  The summer following freshman year, with the season over,
I decided to get rid of my tape dependency.  I quit taping cold turkey (but I
was tumbling and vaulting only into a pit).  I would tumble and stop when my
ankles hurt too much, and eventually they stopped hurting altogether.  I also
lost the weight, which no doubt helped (but it wasn't the only thing, because
my ankles had hurt and I had been taping them before I gained it).

Just my $0.02
:-)
Adriana

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