GYMN-L Digest - 27 Jul 1995 to 28 Jul 1995

There are 22 messages totalling 699 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

1. Pink Ranger
2. Gaylord
3. Need Trivia Questions: Shooting Stars
4. Word University Games
5. 1997 NCAA Women's Nationals
6. Introduction John Hughes
7. NCAA vs elite competition
8. University Games
9. Sundry NCAA stuff
10. Dom Dawes and Tanya Maiers
11. Fwd: Re: Birthdays
12. World University Games
13. IG (3)
14. Kerri Strug (2)
15. THE BROWNS
16. Re[2]: IG
17. Alot of things
18. RESPECT FOR COMPETITORS
19. USOF Men's results

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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 20:29:51 -0700
From: ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject: Pink Ranger

A while ago someone asked about the pink Power Ranger's gymnastics
backround. While looking aroung on internet I found something about
her:

Her name is Amy Jo Johnson and has been in gymnastics since she was 7.
She was a competitive gymnast for 10 years and appeared in
international gymnastics meets in Europe.

Margi :)

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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 20:34:49 -0700
From: ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject: Gaylord

A while ago in the newspaper they had an article about Mitch Gaylord.
He released his first exercise video called The Men's Total Body
Workout. He was in Batman Forever as Robin's (Chris O'Donnell)
stuntdevil. He also played a part of Mitch Grayson, Robin's aerialist
brother "who meets an ugly demise at the hands of Two-Face".

By the way Mark your poem, The Beam Dream, was great. Good job :)


Margi :)

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:10:18 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Need Trivia Questions: Shooting Stars

Hey Gymners

Our next trivia set will be on Shooting Stars: gymnasts who made a major
impact for a short period of time, then "flared out."

Please send all questions (with answers) to me via private e-mail by Sunday,
5pm EST!

:-)
Mara

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:10:33 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Word University Games

To All:
I received a call with some info on who qualified to the World University
Games:
(1) The University of Florida's senior, Kristen Guise, was the only
non-incoming collegiate freshman to qualify for the 4-person team. I do not
have the names of the other three, but I was told that one will be attending
Georgia and another will be attending Cal-State Ful. However, I'm not putting
a lot of reliance on this information, other than the fact that Guise
qualified.
(2) I also heard that Georgia's Leslie Angelies AND and a Georgia
incoming freshman (NOT Amanda Borden) tore their ACL's.
(3) University of Florida Head Coach Judi Avener was chosen the head
coach of the World University team and Georgia Assistant Coach Doug McAvinn
was chosen as the World University Games Assistant Coach.
--- Ronald

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:14:45 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: 1997 NCAA Women's Nationals

To All:
The University of Florida was chosen by NCAA coaches by unanimous vote as
the host site for the 1997 NCAA National Women's Gymnastics Championships.
The choice of Florida means the championships will stay in the
Southeastern United States and in the Southeastern Conference three years in
a row, having been at Georgia this year and set for Alabama next year.
-- Ronald

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 08:25:48 BST
From: ***@LINCOLN.GPSEMI.COM
Subject: Re: Introduction

>Hi,
>
>I know that our coach is always looking for different ideas and approches to
>conditioning and training progressions. I think it would be invaluable to
>have this type of discussion list. If this is not the appropriate forum then
>maybe we could start a new one.
>
>karen
>
Hello Karen,

Thanks for the reply and your interest. I am new to this forum ( 2days ) so
I have not yet got a feel for the kind of information that people pass
around, therefore its difficult to judge whether or not it is the right
forum. However if there is a particular area of training / progressions you
want to tackle or discuss then I'm willing to have a go, if my expertise
allows !


Regards,

John

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 06:51:49 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: NCAA vs elite competition

I wanted to add my two cents to this ongoing discussion. After spending the
past four years as a member of a NCAA division one gymnastics team (Go
UMass!) I agree that comparing collegiate gymnastics and elite gymnastics is
like comparing apples and oranges. Although both groups are doing
gymnastics, they are two different sports. Not only is the scoring different
as was already mentioned, but there is an entirely different attitude about
the sport. College gymnastics is a time to have fun, to emphasize team,
(from what I understand is that even Jenny Hansen looked terrible in warmups
at NCAAs until her teammates showed up!), and to enjoy the fruits of all the
work you put in as an age group or elite gymnast. Not to say that you don't
work hard as a college gymnast, because you most certainly do. I came home
from many a workout completly useless to do homework until I took a nap!

Collegiate women gymnasts for the most part do not want to compete
internationally anymore. The ones who have competed at that level seem to be
happy that it is over, and are enjoying their new experiences in the sport.
To use Michigan gymnasts as an example, Beth Wymer, Heather Kabnick and
Wendy Marshall (and I think one other) all qualified to World University
Games Trials, but NONE chose to go! Different people have different goals in
the sport, and while some would kill to have a chance to compete in Japan,
others are content to enjoy the collegiate season with their team. Many of
these gymnasts gave up their teenage years to pursue their gymnastics dreams,
and now I think they just want to enjoy the other parts of life, and attempt
to be college students.

For those whose careers are just "blossoming" in college, I think that not
having to do compulsories could be a great opportunity. But I don't think
you'll see too many collegiate gymnasts at USAs anytime soon.

erica

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:36:36 -0400
From: ***@IVT.NEXUSPRIME.ORG
Subject: University Games

What days are the University Games being held?

Laura :)

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:40:53 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Sundry NCAA stuff

>I just thought that I'd point out that a double tuck flyawy off UB is a "C",
they upgraded it earlier after the new fig came out. (YEAH!!!)<

<I'm confused; they upgraded it when? Haven't heard about that. It was
still a B in the FIG Code last time I judged, a year ago.>

The upgraded it last fall, I think. It makes sense because a layout
flyaway-full is a B, so I would think a double should be a C.

BTW---what is a double tuck on floor worth?? I've heard a D, but I don't
think that is right

jessica

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:48:53 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Dom Dawes and Tanya Maiers

<Tanya
Maiers is not competing at the USOF is because she is injured--I can't
remember the exact injury...maybe a broken arm (?) This was reported in the
Atlanta Journal and
Constitution, which follows her career quite closely (since she is from
Atlanta). They said she hopes to be ready for Nationals. I sure hope so!>

Kim Young, one of Tanya's teammates at Aerials, told me that she broke her
elbow (quite badly) and was hoping to compete this summer. I sure hope she
does, she is really good!!!!

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 08:04:08 -0700
From: ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject: Fwd: Re: Birthdays

<Hi,
<Do you know the birthday of Nadia Comaneci? How old is she now? Do you
<know
<what she is doing now?

<Thanks in advance

Nadia Comaneci was born on November 12, 1961 which makes her 33 going
onto 34. Currently Nadia is engaged to be married to Bart Conner and
has been touring and doing shows.

Margi :)

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 11:38:07 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: World University Games

I guess it takes a parent to clear all this mess up!


The top six girls are going to Japan in August. This is a six member team,
not 4 and two alternates, just six! I don't know how many are incoming, but I
know that at least two aren't incoming. I have the complete list on
FlashPoint, but here is the team.

1. Karin Lichey UGA
2. Amy Murakami Stanford
3. Kristen Guise UF
4. Heidi Hornbeek U Arizona
5. Katy Maty Cal State Fuller
6. JULIE BALLARD UGA GYMDAWGS!!!!!!!


If you want more, call FlashPoint 404-287-7320. I also have all the scores
from Classic.



Lori

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:58:17 -0700
From: ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject: IG

I got my International Gymnast mag. today. It was really cool. They had
an interview with Oksana Kniznik. In brief Oksana said that she still
keeps in touch with her old teammates like Dina Kotchetkova and Oksana
Fabrichnova by writing letters and getting together at meets. Her goal
is Atlanta and she wants to be a choreographer when she grows up. At
the end of the interview the interviewer gave her a magazine witha big
picture of her doing a Yang Bo jump and a Bugs Bunny wallet and a
cartoon shirt. Oksana said that it was the first time she had seen a
picture of herself competing.

Also in the magazine it had a bit about Brown's gymnastics. Rita Brown
now has a facility in Houston. It is really cool. (They have a picture
of it):
5 floor mats
1 unspring for rythmic
30 beams
8 set of Bars
4 vaulting runs
2 tumbling tracks
men's equiptment
and more!

Pretty cool huh?

Margi :)

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Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 19:54:03 PDT
From: ***@MAIL.LSS.CO.ZA
Subject: Kerri Strug

Does anyone know where I can write to Kerri Strug at the moment? I'm not sure
which gym she is at right now.
Helen.

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:22:08 CDT
From: ***@SC1.TAMU.EDU
Subject: Re: IG

My daughter is at Brown's in Houston this week for camp and she is
loving it. It is apparently (according to their brochures) the
largest training facility in the US at approx. 46,000 sq. ft.
Svetlana Boguinskya (sp?) is there right now also, so she got to watch
her workout and had her picture taken with her. I assume that
Brown's Houston girls will begin competing in USAG this year, last
year they weren't at the district championships so I guess they
weren't in full swing yet. What a district to have to compete
in---Karolyi's, Cypress Academy, and now Brown's! But it is also an
incredible opportunity to see some of the potential future top
"stars".

Living near Houston, my daughter has had a lot of opportunities to
see and interact with top gymnasts. She has been able to participate
in meets at Karolyi's ranch and has Henrietta Onodi attend one of the
meets held in our gym. She (Henrietta) is attending school in San
Antonio and will be working out in our gym in August.



Back to lurking!

Starrla

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 16:27:12 -0400
From: ***@UMICH.EDU
Subject: Re: IG

Is kevin Brown at Brown's gymnastics with Rita in florida, or is he now
at Cincinati? I thought I heard he was helping Mary Lee Tracy there...

And what is with Dawes' scholarship? I never heard either that she lost it.
That was always her goal, to get a college scholarship, I wouldn't
think she'd risk it.

Anjel

> I got my International Gymnast mag. today. It was really cool. They had
> an interview with Oksana Kniznik. In brief Oksana said that she still
> keeps in touch with her old teammates like Dina Kotchetkova and Oksana
> Fabrichnova by writing letters and getting together at meets. Her goal
> is Atlanta and she wants to be a choreographer when she grows up. At
> the end of the interview the interviewer gave her a magazine witha big
> picture of her doing a Yang Bo jump and a Bugs Bunny wallet and a
> cartoon shirt. Oksana said that it was the first time she had seen a
> picture of herself competing.
>
> Also in the magazine it had a bit about Brown's gymnastics. Rita Brown
> now has a facility in Houston. It is really cool. (They have a picture
> of it):
> 5 floor mats
> 1 unspring for rythmic
> 30 beams
> 8 set of Bars
> 4 vaulting runs
> 2 tumbling tracks
> men's equiptment
> and more!
>
> Pretty cool huh?
>
> Margi :)
>

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 16:31:04 -0400
From: ***@UMICH.EDU
Subject: Re: Kerri Strug

Colorado Ariels..don't know address though, sorry.

Anjel

> Does anyone know where I can write to Kerri Strug at the moment? I'm not sure
> which gym she is at right now.
> Helen.
>

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 16:03:41 CDT
From: ***@PROCTR.CBA.UA.EDU
Subject: THE BROWNS

Speaking of Rita and Kevin Brown, I haven't seen them together in a
long while. I believe only Rita was with Wendy Bruce last year at
U.S. Nationals. Are they just at their separate gyms working or
what, does anyone know?

Shawn

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 18:11:00 -0400
From: ***@CCMAIL.ORL.MMC.COM
Subject: Re[2]: IG

Kevin and Rita divorced a few years back, and he is now in Cincinnatti. He does
come back to Florida to run the Browns summer camp.

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Subject: Re: IG
Date: 7/28/95 4:27 PM


Is kevin Brown at Brown's gymnastics with Rita in florida, or is he now
at Cincinati? I thought I heard he was helping Mary Lee Tracy there...

And what is with Dawes' scholarship? I never heard either that she lost it.
That was always her goal, to get a college scholarship, I wouldn't
think she'd risk it.

Anjel


> I got my International Gymnast mag. today. It was really cool. They had
> an interview with Oksana Kniznik. In brief Oksana said that she still
> keeps in touch with her old teammates like Dina Kotchetkova and Oksana
> Fabrichnova by writing letters and getting together at meets. Her goal
> is Atlanta and she wants to be a choreographer when she grows up. At
> the end of the interview the interviewer gave her a magazine witha big
> picture of her doing a Yang Bo jump and a Bugs Bunny wallet and a
> cartoon shirt. Oksana said that it was the first time she had seen a
> picture of herself competing.
>
> Also in the magazine it had a bit about Brown's gymnastics. Rita Brown
> now has a facility in Houston. It is really cool. (They have a picture
> of it):
> 5 floor mats
> 1 unspring for rythmic
> 30 beams
> 8 set of Bars
> 4 vaulting runs
> 2 tumbling tracks
> men's equiptment
> and more!
>
> Pretty cool huh?
>
> Margi :)
>

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 18:19:29 -0500
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: Alot of things

Date sent: 28-JUL-1995 18:17:02
1) Kerri's at Colorado Aerials
2)Was jenny hansen at the World unviersty games trials? She should have
been. :)
3)Jenny hansen was who i had in mind when I said some of the girls at the
Ncaa level should try fgor the national team. She has elite difficulty.
4)Someone said leslie Angles and another UGA gymnasts ripped ACL's. Who was
the other gymnast?

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 19:00:42 CDT
From: ***@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Subject: RESPECT FOR COMPETITORS

When I was at the US Classic on Sat. night, I saw Dawes leaving and as she left
she was mobbed by a group of young autograph seekers. How do you know when it
is okay to approach a gymnast? She seemed like she just wanted to leave. Is
there anyone especially approachable?

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 18:09:03 -0600
From: ***@RMII.COM
Subject: USOF Men's results

These results are via the AP wire: (man, check out all the ties on
high bar!)

Final results from Thursday's team gymnastics competition at the Coors
Event Center:

Men All-Around

1 (tie), Rob Kieffer, Austin, Texas, (South), 56.850 points
1 (tie), Richard Grace, Omaha, Neb., (East), 56.850
3, Brian Yee, Houston, (North), 56.800
4, Mike Moran, Windsor, Conn., (North), 56.725
5, Jay Thornton, Augusta, Ga., (North), 56.700
6, John Macready, Los Angeles, (South), 56.150
7, Tyler Vogt, Jacksonville, Fla., (South), 55.650
8, Dave Frank, Cinnaminson, N.J., (West), 55.150
9, Derek Leiter, Lincoln, Neb., (North), 54.950
10, Izy Mlay, Fremont, Calif., (West), 54.600
11, Andrew Mason, Scottsdale, Ariz., (East), 54.550
12, Gewin Sincharoen, La Canada, Calif., (East), 54.200
13, Lindsey Fang, Allentown, Pa., (East), 54.00
13, Guard Young, State College, Pa., (South), 54.000
15, Freddie Umali, San Jose, Calif., (East), 53.80
16, Chad Conner, Dallas, (South), 53.10
17, Ryan Waggener, Tulsa, (North), 52.45
18, Scott Vetere, Pennsburg, Pa., (North), 52.20
19, Todd Strada, Alpharetta, Ga., (East), 52.15
20, Anthony Petrocelli, Stroudsburg, Pa., (West), 51.95
21, Sean Townsend, Houston, (South), 51.90
22, Sean Contreras, Lincoln, Neb., (West), 51.00

Team

1, North (Derek Leiter, Mike Moran, Jay Thornton, Scott Vetere, Ryan Waggener,
Brian Yee) 277.975 points
2, South (Rob Kieffer, John Macready, Sean Townsend, Tyler Vogt, Chad Conner,
Guard Young) 276.2
3, East (Lindsey Fang, Richard Grace, Andrew Mason, Gewin Sincharoen, Todd
Strada, Freddie Umali) 274.0
4, West (Sean Contreras, Dave Frank, Izy Mlay, Anthony Petrocelli) 212.7

Floor Exercise

1, Jay Thornton, 9.85 points
2, Sean Contreras, 9.75
2, John Macready, 9.75
4, Mike Moran, 9.675
5, Derek Leiter, 9.50
6, Dave Frank, 9.45
7, Brian Yee, 9.40
8 (tie), Lindsey Fang, 9.35
8 (tie), Rob Kieffer, 9.35
10, Guard Young, 9.30
11, Richard Grace, 9.20
12, Chad Conner, 9.15
13, Gewin Sincharoen, 9.1
14, Andrew Mason, 9.05
15 (tie), Tyler Vogt, 8.90
15 (tie), Sean Townsend, 8.90
17, Todd Strada, 8.80
18, Anthony Petrocelli, 8.75
19, Scott Vetere, 8.70
20, Freddie Umali, 8.65
21, Izy Mlay, 8.60
22, Ryan Waggener, 8.55

Pommel Horse

1, Brian Yee, 9.85 points
2, Rob Kieffer, 9.80
3, Richard Grace, 9.75
4, Jay Thornton, 9.55
5 (tie), Derek Leiter, 9.35
5 (tie), Tyler Vogt, 9.35
7, Gewin Sincharoen, 9.25
8 (tie), Izy Mlay, 9.20
8 (tie), Mike Moran, 9.20
10 (tie), John Macready, 9.15
10 (tie), Andrew Mason, 9.15
12, Chad Conner, 9.05
13, Lindsey Fang, 8.90
13, Guard Young, 8.90
15, Todd Strada, 8.85
16 (tie), Scott Vetere, 8.70
16 (tie), Dave Frank, 8.70
18, Freddie Umali, 8.65
19, Ryan Waggener, 8.55
20, Anthony Petrocelli, 8.25
21, Sean Townsend, 8.05
22, Sean Contreras, 7.50

Still Rings

1 (tie), Mike Moran, 9.70 points
1 (tie), Dave Frank, 9.70
3, Tyler Vogt, 9.60
4 (tie), Jay Thornton, 9.40
4 (tie), Brian Yee, 9.40
6, Rob Kieffer, 9.35
7, Richard Grace, 9.20
8, John Macready, 9.05
9 (tie), Guard Young, 8.80
9 (tie), Ryan Waggener, 8.80
11, Scott Vetere, 8.75
12 (tie), Derek Leiter, 8.70
12 (tie), Sean Contreras, 8.70
12 (tie), Izy Mlay, 8.70
15 (tie), Lindsey Fang, 8.60
15 (tie), Sean Townsend, 8.60
17, Andrew Mason, 8.55
18, Todd Strada, 8.50
19 (tie), Freddie Umali, 8.40
19 (tie), Chad Conner, 8.40
21, Gewin Sincharoen, 8.35
22, Anthony Petrocelli, 8.20

Vault

1, Richard Grace, 9.65 points
2, Brian Yee, 9.55
3, Mike Moran, 9.45
4, Tyler Vogt, 9.35
5, John Macready, 9.30
6 (tie), Gewin Sincharoen, 9.20
6 (tie), Jay Thornton, 9.20
8 (tie), Anthony Petrocelli, 9.15
8 (tie), Rob Kieffer, 9.15
10, Sean Contreras, 9.10
11, Dave Frank, 9.05
12 (tie), Derek Leiter, 9.00
12, Guard Young, 9.00
12 (tie), Andrew Mason, 9.00
12 (tie), Freddie Umali, 9.00
16, Izy Mlay, 8.95
17 (tie), Chad Conner, 8.85
17 (tie), Ryan Waggener, 8.85
19, Lindsey Fang, 8.80
20, Sean Townsend, 8.65
21, Scott Vetere, 8.55
22, Todd Strada, 8.50

Parallel Bars

1, Izy Mlay, 9.75 points
2, Rob Kieffer, 9.65
3 (tie), Freddie Umali, 9.55
3 (tie), Richard Grace, 9.55
5 (tie), Andrew Mason, 9.50
5 (tie), Brian Yee, 9.50
7 (tie), Mike Moran, 9.25
7 (tie), John Macready, 9.25
9 (tie), Lindsey Fang, 9.15
9 (tie), Jay Thornton, 9.15
11, Tyler Vogt, 9.00
12 (tie), Todd Strada, 8.95
12 (tie), Dave Frank, 8.95
12 (tie), Guard Young, 8.95
15, Derek Leiter, 8.90
16, Gewin Sincharoen, 8.85
17, Ryan Waggener, 8.70
18, Scott Vetere, 8.60
19 (tie), Chad Conner, 8.50
19 (tie), Anthony Petrocelli, 8.50
21, Sean Townsend, 8.40
22, Sean Contreras, 8.20

Horizontal Bar

1, John Macready, 9.65 points
2 (tie), Rob Kieffer, 9.55
2 (tie), Freddie Umali, 9.55
2 (tie), Jay Thornton, 9.55
5 (tie), Derek Leiter, 9.50
5 (tie), Richard Grace, 9.50
7 (tie), Gewin Sincharoen, 9.45
7 (tie), Tyler Vogt, 9.45
7 (tie), Mike Moran, 9.45
10, Izy Mlay, 9.40
11 (tie), Sean Townsend, 9.30
11 (tie), Andrew Mason, 9.30
11 (tie), Dave Frank, 9.30
14, Lindsey Fang, 9.20
15, Chad Conner, 9.15
16 (tie), Brian Yee, 9.10
16 (tie), Anthony Petrocelli, 9.10
18, Guard Young, 9.05
19, Ryan Waggener, 9.00
20, Scott Vetere, 8.90
21, Todd Strada, 8.55
22, Sean Contreras, 7.75

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