GYMN-L Digest - 13 Sep 1995 to 14 Sep 1995
There
are 22 messages totalling 583 lines in this
issue.
Topics of the day:
1. African-American gymnasts (2)
2. Comparisons
3. Speaking of "Kimbo"
4. Svetlana B
5. Nike Commercial (2)
6. 94 Worlds signed posters info &
order form
7. random thoughts
8. Eric Clapton Video (2)
9. Lets talk about JUDGES
10. Demi Moore / was: Alexis Brion's FX, plus an intro
11. New Stuff
12. Demi Moore's Stunt Double
13. GYMNASTS-USA Leotards
14. African-American Gymnasts (2)
15. Hello world!
16. The Gymnasts series
17. 94 Worlds signed posters info
18. Betty Okino
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 20:07:08
-0700
From: ***@MCN.ORG
Subject:
Re: African-American gymnasts
>Just wanted to correct a mistake I
saw in a post today;
>Betty Okino's
mother is Rumanian; Betty might be half African-American though.
>
>Anne
>
Her father is Ugandan. At least that's what I've been
told.
Orion
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 22:14:49
-0500
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject:
Comparisons
Date sent:
13-SEP-1995 22:13:37
Well, since we are comparing kristy powell and Mary Lou Retton,I just
thought of another one. Kristie Phillips won the 1986 junior
title,
won the 1987 senior title, then missed the
Olympic team. Parts one
and two apply to Moceanu, though i hope part three
doesn't come true.
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 23:20:57
-0400
From: ***@PHARM.MED.UPENN.EDU
Subject:
Speaking of "Kimbo"
Just thought I
would let people know that Kim Zemeskel was at the
World
Trials. She was sitting
in the stands, came down to where I was sitting to
say
hello to some people on the floor -- she along with myself and Victor
Randasso were reprimmanded by the
security for trying to get autographs.
Yes, we were a little
surprised. Any rate, she looks very
healthy, I didn't
have a chance to ask her how her
training is going, since we needed to
defended
ourselves from the security guards.
She was also sporting a VERY
NICE pair of diamond earrings.
Mayland
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>>>Dear
Gymners,
>>
>>I was listening to
the radio the other day and heard the song "You Look
>>Wonderful
Tonight" by Eric Clapton. I
remember seeing this music video on
>>MTV before the '92
Olympics. It showed Shannon doing
her hair and make-up,
>>sewing, and working
out. It also showed some other
gymnasts, too. Maybe
>>Kimbo or Kerri Strug? Does anyone remember this? Does anyone have this on
>>tape?
>>
>>Gymnastically yours,
>>D
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 23:40:35
-0400
From: ***@AMERICA.COM
Subject:
Re: Svetlana B
Yes, Bogie is now training at Browns in Houston.
>
She is still around!!!???!!!!
>
> On
Wed, 13 Sep 1995, Shawn Allen wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know if
Svetlana Boguinskaya has ever been injured? I
> > don't
even remember her having any kind of wrap(ankle,etc..)? And if she is
> > competing at Worlds?
> >
> > Shawn
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 22:45:14
-18521200
From: ***@MADRAD.RADIOLOGY.WISC.EDU
Subject:
African-American gymnasts
Don't forget Agina
Simpkins, Stephanie Williams,
Lucy
Collins (1st to make national team?),
and Nicole Kushner.
Lani.
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 00:00:43
-0400
From: ***@AMERICA.COM
Subject:
Nike Commercial
Has anyone else seen the new Nike commercial that has
a child extolling
the virtues of children in sport
(less chance of trouble teen pregnancy
etc.). I
only caught the last half of it once last week. Good stuff! I
would love to have a copy of their statistics the next time
some(insert
words of your choice here) tries to
imply that there is something wrong
with my
daughter spending 6 days a week in the gym!
Ken
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 00:45:53
-0400
From: ***@MUSS.CIS.MCMASTER.CA
Subject:
Re: Nike Commercial
> Has anyone else seen the new Nike commercial
that has a child extolling
> the virtues of
children in sport (less chance of trouble teen pregnancy
> etc.). I only caught the last half of it once last week.
Good stuff! I
> would love to have a copy of
their statistics the next time some(insert
> words
of your choice here) tries to imply that there is something wrong
> with my daughter spending 6 days a week in the gym!
>
>
Ken
>
When I started gymnastics at age 8, I had the biggest
attitude in the
world. I still threw temper tantrums, and was
actually kicked out of the
gym more than I was
allowed to stay (or so it seemed...)
By the end of
my career I was strong, and
dedicated and best of all disciplined.
I
don't think I would be where I am today
if it weren't for gymnastics.
A
lot of people gave my parents flack about
me (they never pushed me) in
the gym. I didn't hit puberty until I was
seventeen, and now at 20 I'm
still only 4'9",
but I'm healthy, and successful and very happy. I might
have
been an inch or so taller without gymnastics, but I also would
probably be on the streets or have 3 children by now. Don't let anyone
tell
you this sport is anything but amazing.
Sam
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 16:09:13
+1000
From: ***@STUDENT.GU.EDU.AU
Subject:
Re: 94 Worlds signed posters info & order form
(Hi everyone, I'm
re posting this info, since I've recieved some
requests
in the past few days about the 94 Worlds
posters, and thought others
might be interested,
now that a few gymners have recieved
theirs, and
apparently liked them)
OK
folks, I spoke to the president of the Queensland Gym Association
yesterday, and he was able to work out a cost for the
posters worldwide.
They will cost $16 US for the first one, and $12 US
for each one after
that, sent to the same
address. This price includes a
packaging tube,
and air-mail postage to anywhere
in the world (which takes a maximum of
about 7
days).
For T-shirts it is the same cost : $16
US for the first one, and $12 US
for each one
after that, sent to the same address.
Again this includes
air-mail postage to
anywhere in the world. Be sure to
include the
size(s) you want (16, 18, 20 or
22).
Make cheques (preferable bank) and
money orders in US dollars
only, payable to the
QGAI, and mail to:
> QGAI
> PO BOX 757
>
CAPALABA
> QUEENSLAND
> 4157
> AUSTRALIA
Be sure
to include your name, address and number of posters, and or
t-shirts you want.
Here is a sample order form you're welcome to print
and fill in.
Michelle
P.S. If you have any
further questions, write to the QGAI.
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"Worlds" Signed Poster & T-Shirt
Order Form
Please
send me ......... (number) Signed Poster/s
Please send me ......... (number) T-Shirts size/s .......................
Name
____________________________________________________________________
Address
_________________________________________________________________
_________________________________________________________________________
_________________________________________________________________________
_________________________________________________________________________
I enclose US $ ___________ (each poster
or t-shirt is $16 for the first
and $12 for each
additional sent to the same address)
Order without payment will NOT be
processed.
Please attach
your cheque, made payable to the QGAI, to this Order
Form,
and
send to:
QGAI
PO BOX 757
CAPALABA
QUEENSLAND
4157
AUSTRALIA
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 00:37:31
-0700
From: ***@HALCYON.COM
Subject:
random thoughts
_The
Gymnasts_ books
have some interesting progressions in them. I
remember
one girl for whom a handspring was her favorite vault, but she was
still trying to get that pesky and very difficult
layout-squat!
Betty Okino's mom is Romanian, and her dad
Ugandan, i think. Betty
speaks
Romanian, which surprised the heck out of Karolyi-the
story i heard
was that Bela and Marta would speak together in Romanian if they
didn't
want the gymnasts to understand. Betty, of
course, did; so when they found
this out, they
immediately switched to another language (i forgot
which)
which Betty couldn't understand at
all.
Also, what's a Thomas?
-stephanie
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 07:16:22
-0400
From: ***@STYX.IOS.COM
Subject:
Re: Eric Clapton Video
I
remember the video you are refering
to, it had the entire team
in it at one point, but it was mostly Shannon Miller with
Kerri Strug on
bars, and
a few clips of Kim doing compulsories.
Lori McCoy
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 22:27:38
+1000
From: ***@OZEMAIL.COM.AU
Subject:
Re: Lets talk about JUDGES
Not only does it happen in the good old USA
it happens very much here
down under.
I will
be willing to follow the story on Judges and maybe the judging
system will change to be better all around not only for
Elite but
National gymnasts as well.
Haydn
Down
under
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 08:32:32
-0400
From: ***@EOS.NCSU.EDU
Subject:
Re: Eric Clapton Video
> Subject: Eric Clapton Video
> Dear Gymners,
>
> I was listening to the radio the
other day and heard the song "You Look
> Wonderful Tonight" by
Eric Clapton. I remember seeing
this music video on
> MTV before the '92 Olympics. It showed Shannon doing her hair and
make-up,
> sewing, and working out. It also showed some other gymnasts,
too. Maybe
> Kimbo or Kerri Strug? Does anyone remember this? Does anyone have this on
> tape?
Yeah I remember it, and have it on tape.. the song is "Wonderful
Tonight" and
it was the version from his 24
Nights CD, but slightly edited.. great song!
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 08:59:53
-0400
From: ***@CAPITALNET.COM
Subject:
Re: Demi Moore / was: Alexis Brion's FX, plus an
intro
Ann wrote:
>....
It would be fun to pick it up again -- Demi Moore doing
>back handsprings and aerials on Letterman while 8 months
pregnant
>suggests it's doable! ...
When was this? Did she really ...? Or was it a stunt double?
Does
anyone have this on tape?
Grace
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 07:04:49
-0600
From: ***@RMII.COM
Subject:
New Stuff
In the "Other" directory at the ftp site
(ftp.cac.psu.edu, /pub/gymn),
in
addition to the USOC Coaching Code of Ethics, there is the
Preliminary
Report (September, 1995) from the Task Force on USA
Gymnastics
Response to the Female Athlete Triad. I encourage all USA
Gymners to read this and give feedback to USA Gymnastics
at
USGF@Delphi.com. I likewise
encourage non-USA Gymners to bring this
report to the attention of your federation(s). Thanks to Steve
Whitlock
for providing me with the text for this report. The report is
also the first "Current News" item on the WWW
pages, if you want to
get to it that way.
I
have uploaded an updated Calendar from John Courtney to the ftp
site/ WWW site that includes some September events, among
other items.
I don't know who in Britain (Sherwin?) had been sending in so
many
British events, but thanks to everyone who has been submitting
calendar items.
The calendar is thankfully much less "American" than
it used to be.
Thanks also to John Courtney for consistently
producing
the Calendar on time for Gymn!
Also, sadly,
the women's optionals report will go up tomorrow,
not
today, as I had to stay at work yesterday
until midnight!
Rachele
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 08:27:08
CST
From: ***@CHSRA.WISC.EDU
Subject:
Demi Moore's Stunt Double
Ann wrote:
> >.... It would be fun to pick it up again --
Demi Moore doing
> >back handsprings and
aerials on Letterman while 8 months pregnant
> >suggests
it's doable! ...
And Grace
responded:
> When was this?
Did she really ...? Or was it a stunt double?
> Does
anyone have this on tape?
It was a stunt double. Demi was making jokes about the
pregnancy
being tough on her physically, but not
too tough... and about having
had the opportunity
to even try some new things, like taking
gymnastics
classes. She asked Dave whether he
wanted to see any of
the stuff she had learned...
and then got up and walked off-stage,
saying she
needed a running start.
Someone wearing an identical dress, with a
pillow in the appropriate
place, ran out and die
(1) a roundoff and two or three back
handsprings, and then (2) went back across the stage doing
two side
aerials... and then disappeared into the
wings.
Demi Moore returned back out, pretending to be tired and
winded.
I don't have it on tape, but it's been shown as a rerun once
already.
It was hilarious the first time, because it was so startling...
she
sounded so credible as she was talking about
everything leading up to
the discussion of the
gymnastics classes, and then I thought, Well,
fine,
she's going to do a forward roll or stand on her head or
something. It may come around as a rerun again...
who knows?
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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 14:39:17
PDT
From: ***@LSS.CO.ZA
Subject:
GYMNASTS-USA Leotards
I
have a few of the books in that series. My dad bought them for me in the
USA.
They're quite nice but I'm growing out of them now.
My dad is going to the USA tomorrow and
he wants to buy me some leotards
there. Does
anyone know where he can get them? (Milano, Alpha
Factor,
Crystal etc.) He'll be in San Jose in the Sunnyvale area. Thanx
Heln.
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 10:00:32
-0500
From: ***@TNTECH.EDU
Subject:
African-American Gymnasts
Don't forget about Pam "Air" Titus
of the University of Florida (late 80's and
early
90's).
Mike
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 11:42:06
EST
From: ***@ABBSMTP.ABB.COM
Subject:
Hello world!
Dear Gymners,
This is
not really on Gymn, so please forgive me. This is
just an easy way to
tell everyone that I will be
on the road next week, to go on world tour. And I
would
love to meet some of you gymners. So, if you would
like to meet me, and
you are a too far off route,
please reply quickly as I am leaving Sep 20. For
now,
my route will be:
Iceland (1 week),
New-york,
Atlantic City,
Toronto,
across Canada to Calgary, Vancouver, down West coast
USA,
visiting SF, LV, LA.
After that it's
still a blurr. I will travel by car where
possible.
If this message does not interest you, I am sorry to take
your time.
Robin.
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 11:21:48
-0500
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject:
The Gymnasts series
Date sent:
14-SEP-1995 11:19:01
I used to read this series, but as it
progressed further and further
into higher level
gymnastics, I found myself getting very annoyed.
They blatantly rip off
from elite gymnastics and stories which have
happened there (renaming the Yurchenko
vault and then Mary Lou's story
being translated
to Heidi's story). Also, they never got the score
right,
which wouldn't have been that hard to figure out. I dunno,
it
just annoys me when people don't bother to be
accurate, especially
when it wouldn't be that hard
to do so.
P.S. Rachele, please mail me when
you have a chance.
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 17:48:30
-0400
From: ***@TSO.CIN.IX.NET
Subject:
African-American Gymnasts
Angie Denkins was
in there too
-Liz
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 18:41:48
-0400
From: ***@CORNELL.EDU
Subject:
94 Worlds signed posters info
I
lost Michelle Harten's repost about the 94 Worlds
posters. Are
they
still available?
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 19:25:16
-0400
From: ***@JUSTICE.USDOJ.GOV
Subject:
Betty Okino
If I remember correctly, her dad
was African, I think Nigerian; I
believe her
parents met while he was studying in Romania.
--Ann.
(sorry if this is a repetitive post; I'm getting the mail
in
digest form).
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