GYMN-L Digest - 27 Nov 1995 to 28 Nov 1995

There are 17 messages totalling 491 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. ACRO (4)
  2. Florida Recruits (2)
  3. La Cirque du Soleil (3)
  4. GYMN-L Digest - 26 Nov 1995 - Special issue
  5. December IG
  6. TV alert (2)
  7. Collegiate Fans: Important administrative info!
  8. Introduction
  9. addresses
 10. Address correction

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Date:    Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:56:39 GMT
From:    ***@GL.RHBNC.AC.UK
Subject: ACRO

To Sports Acro fans out there:

Emily Crocker and Neil Griffiths (GB) have won a silver medal for there Tempo
 routine at the recent world champs.  Emily who became World Junior champion at
 the Moscow event in 1993 will now be a base in a trio due to her getting too
 tall to be a top, and her base retiring.

Sarah :)

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Date:    Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:16:18 -0600
From:    ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: Florida Recruits

Can anyone give me some information on the following recruits that
are attending the University of Florida?

Susan Hines
Trisha Lolli
Andrea Mazur
Kelly Ramsdell

Anything would be greatly appreciated.

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Date:    Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:22:01 -0500
From:    ***@ARGONET.CO.UK
Subject: La Cirque du Soleil

Here a query for all you Sports Acro. people out there.

I was watching the Royal Variety Performance on the TV last night. ( This is a
is a show for charity performed in the presence of HM the Queen ).

Half way through there was a real class act by a French circus group ' La
Cirque du Soleil '. One part was a two man sports acro. routine which had to
be seen to be believed. In the main it consisted of some incredible strength
moves combined with a degree of contortionism on the part of the guy
underneath. In one move the  supporter was lying prone on the floor with his
heels above his knees. The other was in handstand on his heels. He then slowly
lowered his feet to the floor,rested, then slowly ( and agonisingly ) raised
them again. All this with the other performer in handstand on his heels. Both
were of equal weight,well built, around 15 stone each. Until I saw it I did
not think this was possible !

So, if you get the chance to see this act, and you are into sports acro, then
this is the one to see.

Does anybody know who these two guys are ?


Yours amazed !



John

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Date:    Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:20:09 -0500
From:    ***@ARGONET.CO.UK
Subject: Re: GYMN-L Digest - 26 Nov 1995 - Special issue

Maria asked the question why the average age of retirement for girls
at her gym is 15.

 This also happens at our gym for three reasons that I can suggest.

1) Social reasons. Out of the gym she is doing more things independently. She
has her own circle of friends and increasing diversity of activity including
BOYFRIENDS. She finds conflict between going out and training.

2) Education. At 15 the pressure of school work becomes very demanding. In the
U.K. studying the GCSE exams becomes her life, leaving little time to
concentrate and allow time for training. In fact many of our National gymnasts
elect to delay them for a year. This is a big decision for herself and her
parents.

3) Physiological change. At 15 the girl is changing physically into a woman
with the onset of puberty. Moves she could acomplish when she was a mere waif
at the age of 12 now takes much conditioning and strength to maintain. The
mechanics alter. A simple cast to handstand on the bars becomes a major
obstacle. Some girls are able to adapt and make it through but the majority do
not.


John
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Date:    Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:05:24 -0500
From:    ***@MUSS.CIS.MCMASTER.CA
Subject: Re: ACRO

What is Acro exactly, and how would I get involved here in Ontario?
Anyone know?
Thanx,
Sam (sandrita)


> To Sports Acro fans out there:
>
> Emily Crocker and Neil Griffiths (GB) have won a silver medal for there Tempo
>  routine at the recent world champs.  Emily who became World Junior champion
 at
>  the Moscow event in 1993 will now be a base in a trio due to her getting too
>  tall to be a top, and her base retiring.
>
> Sarah :)
>

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Date:    Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:04:15 -0600
From:    ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: December IG

Well, it's here, folks. The December IG has been released. :) Lots and
lots of Worlds coverage, plus a huge amount of spectacular pics. Hats off
to IG for putting Pods on the cover, and there is an absolutely stunning
photo of Dominique Moceanu's pak salto on bars. You have to see it to
understand, but I didn't know you could get such an awesome pic of her.

Only complaint, IG has once again decided to put the results on the
poster, which is of Mo Huilan, BTW.

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Date:    Tue, 28 Nov 1995 00:16:39 GMT
From:    ***@CLOUD9.NET
Subject: Re: Florida Recruits

>Can anyone give me some information on the following recruits that
>are attending the University of Florida?

 <snip>

Have you checked out the Gators' web page?  The URL is:

http://128.227.88.11/sports/gymnastics/gym.htm

You can also access it (and other university team info.) via Yahoo.

Debbie

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Date:    Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:48:20 -0600
From:    ***@SASKNET.SK.CA
Subject: Re: La Cirque du Soleil

>...All this with the other performer in handstand on his heels. Both
>were of equal weight,well built, around 15 stone each. Until I saw it I did
>not think this was possible !
>
>Does anybody know who these two guys are ?


Assuming these are the same ones you saw on TV, they are Paulo and Marco
Lorador.  The brothers are from Portugal.  Paulo (the blond guy) was
born Dec.3/65 and Marco (dark hair) was born April 20/67.

Their act is from the "Saltimbanco" show and btw, it was from the
souvenir program of this show that I got the info.

I've seen the video of the show and their performance *is* amazing.

DORY

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Date:    Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:12:36 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: TV alert

In response to the last message about the Gymnastics broadcasts on Saturday.
NBC is showing the "International Invitational from Atlanta" on Saturday from
1:30-3:30. At 3:30 there is something on called the Atlanta 1996 Olympics. I
am not sure what that is. I don't see any gymnastics listed on CBS at 3:00 on
Saturday. If anyone has a ny further information about the broadcast timnes
of the Subway challenge, please post it.

Thanks in Advance,

Shari  ;^)

Can't wait for Atlanta !!!!!!!!!

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Date:    Mon, 27 Nov 1995 19:30:59 -0800
From:    ***@LELAND.STANFORD.EDU
Subject: Collegiate Fans: Important administrative info!

Attention collegiate gymnastics fans, two items of interest.

1) A new home for collegiate gymnastics links.

In addition to Rachele's GYMN-L Collegiate Gymnastics page
(http://rainbow.rmii.com/~rachele/college.html), there is a new page
in town.  While the aforementioned page will remain the home of NCAA
history as well as rankings updates, the list of collegiate homepages
has moved.
It can now be found at http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~poser/collgym.html
Note that each of these pages contains a link to the other, so finding
them won't be too hard.

More importantly for Rachele's mailbox, this move also means that you
should send newly-discovered collegiate homepage URL's to me rather
than Rachele.  I am Patrick Tower <poser@leland.stanford.edu>, and I
welcome your help in making this page extra-large.  If your favorite team
doesn't have a homepage but you have access to a schedule, please email it
to me, and I will add the text file to my home directory and link it
on this page.

2) Coming soon to a mailing list near you (that'd be this here GYMN-L):

The GYMN-L Collegiate Update

(That's the working title for now.  I welcome suggestions for a more
creative title.)

This will be a semiweekly (twice a week) publication to update people
on events concerning collegiate gymnastics.  Once the season starts, this
will mainly consist of results from the previous weekend, but injury notes,
recruiting updates, etc. will also have a home here.

Note that this will not replace Rachele's mailing list for people who are
interested in receiving the weekly rankings.

The current plan is to post one issue on Monday containing most of the
weekend's results with a supplemental issue on Wednesday to include scores
from late meets (mainly Utah's Monday meets) as well as slow mail that
doesn't make Monday's deadline.

To make a submission, send email to poser@leland.stanford.edu (not the list)
with something in the subject line to indicate that this is for the
Collegiate Update (or whatever it will be called).  This mail will be
digested (urp!) and sent to the list on Monday and Wednesday morning.
An archive will be maintained and listed on the Collegiate Gymnastics
Links page (see item number one for the URL).

Until the regular season gets in full gear in January, one issue a week
should be enough to cover the volume of submissions, so let us hear
about your team's intra-squad meets, etc.  The first issue will appear
next Monday (Dec. 4).

I hope there won't be a need to enforce a limit on length, but to keep people
from having an absolutely enormous amount of text to wade through, I would
recommend that you try to keep the length around two standard screenfulls
(48 lines).

The purpose of this endeavor is to minimize the amount of posts which have
to be deleted by those on the list who see collegiate gymnastics as a mere
training ground for the men and a retirement home for the women (Believe it
or not, there are some among us on whom the magic of collegiate gymnastics
is lost.), or who don't live in the U.S.  Therefore, please resist the
temptation to send such submissions to the list instead of or in addition
to sending them to me for inclusion in the Update.

I welcome any suggestions for improvements to this publication.

-Patrick

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Date:    Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:51:20 -0700
From:    ***@SUPERNET.AB.CA
Subject: Re: ACRO

>To Sports Acro fans out there:
>
>Emily Crocker and Neil Griffiths (GB) have won a silver medal for there Tempo
> routine at the recent world champs.  Emily who became World Junior champion at
> the Moscow event in 1993 will now be a base in a trio due to her getting too
> tall to be a top, and her base retiring.

Does anyone yet have the acro world results?????

I'm dieing to see them.

Kel
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Date:    Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:54:50 -0700
From:    ***@SUPERNET.AB.CA
Subject: Re: ACRO

>What is Acro exactly, and how would I get involved here in Ontario?
>Anyone know?

Acro was a sport I was in for the last 5 or so years of my life.  If you are
talking what we called acro you will get 3 events:

Tumbling
Trampoline
Double-mini Tramp

You can have syncronized trampoling too.  Which of course is two tramps
obviously :)  Anyways, then there are Sports Acro.

This is where you have a group of either guys and girls or mixed and they
perform floor routines, and for example, the guy holds up the girl (or other
guy) and they can perform handstands on their partners hands, or heads even,
and they can also get thrown in the air and do double backs and fun stuff
like that.

Anyways, I loved training the sport.  The young dominated that sport.

Kel
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Date:    Mon, 27 Nov 1995 22:55:44 -0500
From:    ***@YORKU.CA
Subject: Re: TV alert

> NBC is showing the "International Invitational from Atlanta" on Saturday
from
> 1:30-3:30. At 3:30 there is something on called the Atlanta 1996 Olympics.
I
> am not sure what that is. I don't see any gymnastics listed on CBS at 3:00
on
> Saturday. If anyone has a ny further information about the broadcast timnes
> of the Subway challenge, please post it.
        CBC, the Canadian network, not CBS, will she showing the Subway meet
this Saturday at 3:00.  Unfortunately, the broadcasts overlap.
                        Chris

>
> Shari  ;^)
>
> Can't wait for Atlanta !!!!!!!!!
>-- End of excerpt from Shari T

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Date:    Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:03:48 EST
From:    ***@PRODIGY.COM
Subject: Introduction

Hello, my name is Krista, I live in East Hanover, New Jersey,
and I am a
newcomer to Gymn.  I was a competitive gymnast for fifteen years,
competing at
Gymnastics of Ohio in North Canton through high school and at the
University of Denver
through college.  I currently coach gymnastics at Shields Gymnastics
in Mount Freedom,
New Jersey.

Recently, I completed my second gymnastics biography, Shannon Miller:
 America's Most
Decorated Gymnast.  My first book was entitled Kim Zmeskal:
Determination to Win.
Writing these books was very exciting and enjoyable.  Please let me
know if you have
questions, comments, or criticisms relating to either of these works.


I love gymnastics and look forward to joining in the discussions with
all the rest of you
fans on Gymn.

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Date:    Mon, 27 Nov 1995 05:46:23 PST
From:    ***@LSS.CO.ZA
Subject: addresses

 Where can I write to Jackie Brady and Annika Reeder?

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Date:    Tue, 28 Nov 1995 02:14:23 -0500
From:    ***@GROVE.IUP.EDU
Subject: Address correction

I noticed on the FAQ that was sent to the list a group of addresses for clubs
and federations around the world. The address for DYNAMO is wrong. I tried to
send a letter to the PO Box address that was listed on the list, it has been
posted on the web site for quite some time. Anyway, I got my letter back with
an address correction sticker stating that the forwarding time had expired on
that address and the address they gavew me was this:

Dynamo Gymnastics
3901 N. Tulsa Ave.
Oklahoma City, OK. 73112-2936
USA

I thought that you may have been interested.

--Deb

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Date:    Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:27:44 +0200
From:    ***@KNOWARE.NL
Subject: Re: La Cirque du Soleil

Cirque du Soleil will be in Amsterdam, the Netherlands from april 4-20, 1996.

If someone want to order for tickets, let me know. I received my tickets
within a week!

  >
  >I was watching the Royal Variety Performance on the TV last night. ( This
is a
  >is a show for charity performed in the presence of HM the Queen ).
  >
  >Half way through there was a real class act by a French circus group ' La
  >Cirque du Soleil '. One part was a two man sports acro. rout..............
  >................ think this was possible !
  >
  >So, if you get the chance to see this act, and you are into sports acro, then
  >this is the one to see.


Bye,

Eddy

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